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Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence

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== The Royal Commission evidence for 20/7/1881 ==

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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 20/7/1881|day 37]])

'''SConst Patrick [[SConst P Mullane|Mullane]]''' '''giving evidence'''

[[#rc13686|13686]] What else?— That there was no more money for “ Tommy ” and his friends.

[[#rc13687|13687]] What did you take that to mean?— I consulted with [[Ward|Ward]] . I would have sent Armstrong back to his station, and kept the party at the cave on duty; and “ Tommy ”—I would not guarantee any money for him—any money or payment until I should receive other instructions.

''Mr. [[Nicolson|Nicolson]]'' — There is no discharge in that.

''Mr. [[Hare|Hare]]'' — He could pay them off.

''The Witness'' — “Send Constable Armstrong back to his station, withdraw the watch party, send them back to duty—no more money for ' Tommy ' and his friends.”

[[#rc13688|13688]] ''By Mr. Hare''— Upon that you take it that you would have told him he was to be discharged?— Yes.

[[#rc13689|13689]] Had you seen “ Tommy ” that night you would have told him?— Yes.

[[#rc13690|13690]] And the next morning had not word come down to me?— Yes.

[[#rc13691|13691]] ''By the Commission''— Would you have told him he was discharged?— I would not; I would have told him there was no more money for him.

[[#rc13692|13692]] You would simply put him in possession of the words of the telegram?— Yes.

[[#rc13693|13693]] ''By Mr. Hare''— Is it your impression he would have worked without money?— No; not without some other promise being held out to him.

[[#rc13694|13694]] You mention that Willis said this party was known; are you aware that one of Mrs. Sherritt's daughters was in [[Willis|Willis]]'s employment, at Wangaratta?— Previous to that she was, but not at that time.

[[#rc13695|13695]] Do you know whether that girl was in the habit of coming up to Mrs. Byrne 's house to work for them?— I am not aware of it; I do not think she was.

''Mr. Nicolson'' — I trust the Commission see I had no occasion even to send that telegram.

''The Chairman'' — That does not affect the point at all that the men did their duty.

''Mr. Nicolson'' — It takes away the imputation that I was trying to thwart my successor.

[[#rc13696|13696]] ''By'' ''Mr.'' ''Sadleir'' ''(to the witness)'' — You left Melbourne about the 30th of October?— Yes; I arrived at Benalla on the 30th.

[[#rc13697|13697]] Do you remember receiving from Captain [[Standish|Standish]] information from the person named—?— Yes; I remember the circumstance. We received that information from Captain Standish , at Spencer street railway station, when I was with Flood, on the 30th October 1878 .

[[#rc13698|13698]] Was there a reference to a log where provisions might be laid?— Yes, and other matters.

[[#rc13699|13699]] Do you know whether that was acted upon?— I know that it was. I was not present when the log was searched for; but from the conversation I had with [[SConst Flood|Flood]] afterwards, I knew that Flood was directed by you to come and see the log, and he found it.

[[#rc13700|13700]] What did he give as the result?— I asked him if it had the appearance of any provisions being left there, and he said it had not. It might have been used at one time, but not at all recently.

[[#rc13701|13701]] How long after the information came was the search made?— I think the day after; but it was immediately after—it was within a week.

[[#rc13702|13702]] When were you first employed on the Kelly search, as the man in charge of the Kelly parties?— The first time I was placed in charge was by my going up to [[Fern Hills|Fernhill]] station, I spoke of before where we found those tracks; that was the first time I was in charge.

[[#rc13703|13703]] You were not in charge of the Murray party before that?— No, Sub-Inspector [[Det Kennedy|Kennedy]] was; he was detective then.

[[#rc13704|13704]] When did you arrive at [[Glenrowan|Glenrowan]]?— I think at a few minutes to nine o’clock on the Monday morning.

[[#rc13705|13705]] Were Dowling and Duross and Armstrong and Alexander in your party?— They were.

[[#rc13706|13706]] Did I meet you on your landing at Glenrowan?— You did.

[[#rc13707|13707]] Do you remember jumping out of your train?— I do; I was next the door.

[[#rc13708|13708]] Did you jump out; I do not mean an ordinary step, I mean a spring?— Yes, I jumped out.....

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