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== The Royal Commission evidence for 8/9/1881 ==

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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 8/9/1881|day 51]])

'''Insp [[Brooke Smith|Brooke Smith]]''' '''giving evidence'''

<span id="rc17292">[[#rc17292|17292]]</span> How long was that before you went out?— The same morning, I think; but I did not put any trust in the matter at all.

<span id="rc17293">[[#rc17293|17293]]</span> Did you go out the same day?— Oh, no; there were no police at Wangaratta at that time. There was one, I think, that was all.

<span id="rc17294">[[#rc17294|17294]]</span> How long did you hear of the supposed outlaws before you went out?— Only a very short time. I admit the date; I do not remember dates.

<span id="rc17295">[[#rc17295|17295]]</span> How long?— I cannot tell exactly, it is two years and a half ago.

<span id="rc17296">[[#rc17296|17296]]</span> Was it more than a day?— No.

<span id="rc17297">[[#rc17297|17297]]</span> Do you remember Sergeant [[Steele|Steele]] being in [[Wangaratta|Wangaratta]], on his way to Rats' Castle?— Steele was in charge at Wangaratta at this time.

<span id="rc17298">[[#rc17298|17298]]</span> Do you remember his being in Wangaratta under orders to go [[Rat's Castle|Rats' Castle]] a number of men?— I never heard of it.

<span id="rc17299">[[#rc17299|17299]]</span> Did you receive information from Steele of the appearance of four men?— I have no recollection of that.

<span id="rc17300">[[#rc17300|17300]]</span> Before you went with Johnson had you information that a party had crossed under the bridge, supposed to be the outlaws?— No.

<span id="rc17301">[[#rc17301|17301]]</span> You have accepted the 6th as the date. Had you any information from any source that a number of men, supposed to be the outlaws, had passed under the railway bridge prior to that morning?— The only person I ever received any information about it from was [[Const Patrick Walsh|Walsh]], and he said he believed they had gone across; and from enquiries I made I did not believe they had.

<span id="rc17302">[[#rc17302|17302]]</span> If Steele says he sent you information on the 3rd or 4th November that a party of men supposed to be the outlaws had passed under the bridge, would his statement be correct or otherwise?— How could he send me information?

<span id="rc17303">[[#rc17303|17303]]</span> If he states so, would it be correct or otherwise?— All I can say is that this is the first time I ever heard of it, except when I saw it in print. I was not in charge of Wangaratta at that time.

<span id="rc17304">[[#rc17304|17304]]</span> Was Steele in Wangaratta that day?— I cannot tell.

<span id="rc17305">[[#rc17305|17305]]</span> How long were you in Wangaratta before you went out on that search party?— I think it would be three or four days.

<span id="rc17306">[[#rc17306|17306]]</span> Did Steele give you any information upon the supposed appearance of the outlaws near Wangaratta on the 3rd or 4th November?— I have not the slightest recollection of it. I never received any communication of the sort from him, either written or verbal.

<span id="rc17307">[[#rc17307|17307]]</span> Do you think the statement is correct?— I do not think so. I have no reason to think it is. I especially wish to mention about Constable Patrick Walsh , to give him the credit for what he did. He came to my rooms and told me what he had heard. He came and said that he had learned from an old woman, living near the bridge, that four mounted men had crossed, and he thought it was the outlaws; and when I sent him back I said, “Go and find out who it is and what it is,” and they could not tell which way they went over the bridge.

<span id="rc17308">[[#rc17308|17308]]</span> Did you go afterwards to see this old woman?— No, indeed I did not; I should want something more than that to go.

<span id="rc17309">[[#rc17309|17309]]</span> This is a telegram from you, on the [[ev78-10--4Mansfield Murders|4th November 1878]] , to Superintendent Sadleir , from Wangaratta, “I can neither verify nor controvert [[Daniel Delaney|Delany]] 's statement (that is the old woman) after further enquiry. They are respectable people, easily frightened. Have ascertained from a friend, who crossed [[Mulwalla|Mulwalla]] punt yesterday to [[Yarrawonga|Yarrawonga]], that four New South Wales constables are actively patrolling banks of [[Murray River at Kellygang|Murray]], near punt; also, that although crossings might be made higher up by fishermen's boats, lagoons and creeks on other side so bad, no escape could be made that way, so that [[Warby Ranges|Warby ranges]] could be the only resort for hiding, perhaps on to Ryan's at [[Lake Rowan|Lake Rowan]],” [''the Witness —It has come true''.] “No horses reported missing. Constables [[Hayes|Hayes]] and [[Const Twomey|Twomey]] on [[Thom|Thom]]'s horse are awaiting duty with me when ordered; but such party is too small, and is not well armed, the sight off only Spencer rifle. Constables Davison and [[Const Healey|Healy]] misconducted themselves so much on my search party I would never take either again, as it would be risking other men's lives. Send rifles and ammunition, if you can spare such. Weather increasingly worse. Floods rising.” That is the 4th, at 5.40 p.m. ?— I have not got a copy of the telegram, and have not seen it since it was sent.

<span id="rc17310">[[#rc17310|17310]]</span> Then at 10.50 p.m. the same day, “A youth, Delany , states his mother called him up at 4 a.m. yesterday morning to see if his horse was being taken away. He looked out and saw four mounted men with hobbles, one saddler driving several horses at a rapid pace through One-mile Creek, towards [[Peechelba at kellyGang|Peechelba]] road. No description can be given; may have gone to Warby ranges”?— That finishes up that no description could be given. It was a very unsatisfactory enquiry that was, and I do not believe it was the people at all. The telegram you read there, addressed to Mr. Sadleir , is as true from start to finish as it possibly can be, and I had had a very painful and arduous journey. Twice we crossed the river, and had to get a man who knew it well to tell us whether we dare cross it or not. I remember also that, on the same occasion, one of the constables went a little over the mark and had to be dealt with.....

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