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Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence

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== The Royal Commission evidence for 5/5/1881 ==

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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 5/5/1881|day 16]])

'''[[Jacob Wilson|Jacob Wilson]] sworn and examined'''

[[#rc4403|4403]] ''By the Commission''. —What are you?— A farmer.

[[#rc4404|4404]] Did you receive any information from Superintendent [[Nicolson|Nicolson]]?— Yes.

[[#rc4405|4405]] What did he do?— He sent out a constable to my place.

[[#rc4406|4406]] Were you ever a man-of-war's-man?— Yes.

[[#rc4407|4407]] What vessel were you on last?— I was discharged from the Dreadnought.

[[#rc4408|4408]] Where do you live?— I lived near [[Greta|Greta]].

[[#rc4409|4409]] Were you a [[Selectors|selector]]?— Yes.

[[#rc4410|4410]] Who was your nearest neighbor?— My nearest neighbor was [[Tom Lloyd Jnr|Tom Lloyd]].

[[#rc4411|4411]] Did you know [[Ned Kelly|Ned Kelly]], the outlaw?— Yes.

[[#rc4412|4412]] Was Lloyd any relation of his?— Yes, Mrs. Lloyd is his aunt.

[[#rc4413|4413]] Mr. Lloyd was his uncle, then, by marriage?— Yes.

[[#rc4414|4414]] Do you recollect when the constables were murdered at [[Stringy Bark Creek|Mansfield]] ?— Yes.

[[#rc4415|4415]] When first did you know anything about the police being in search, as far as you were concerned?— I knew the police were in search in 1878.

[[#rc4416|4416]] Was that after the murders or before?— Before.

[[#rc4417|4417]] Did you know who they were in search of?— I knew they were in search of Ned Kelly, after the outrage on [[Fitzpatrick|Fitzpatrick]], on the [[Kelly Home|Eleven-mile Creek]].

[[#rc4418|4418]] How far did you live from the house where the outrage was committed?— About four miles.

[[#rc4419|4419]] You knew all the family?— Yes.

[[#rc4420|4420]] You recollect when the constables were murdered at Mansfield ?— Yes.

[[#rc4421|4421]] How soon did you see the police after that, looking for [[KellyGang|Kelly]]?— I do not remember.

[[#rc4422|4422]] Did the police come to your house—a search party—looking for Kelly?— Yes.

[[#rc4423|4423]] What occurred on that occasion?— They asked me if I had seen anything about the Kellys, we said, “No.”

[[#rc4424|4424]] Who was “we”?— There was my son along with me.

[[#rc4425|4425]] Who asked you that?— I think it was [[SConst Flood|Flood]].

[[#rc4426|4426]] Did you see any officer?— No, I did not.

[[#rc4427|4427]] What did they do then?— Some time, in 1879, Superintendent [[Hare|Hare]] came to my place.

[[#rc4428|4428]] Did you know anything of the Kellys when Constable Flood came?— No, we knew nothing about them.

[[#rc4429|4429]] Was that after the murder of the constables?— I am not certain.

[[#rc4430|4430]] Try and fix it?— I am not certain whether it was after the outrage at the [[Eleven Mile Creek|Eleven-mile Creek]], or after the murders.

[[#rc4431|4431]] Had you seen the Kellys at that time?— No.

[[#rc4432|4432]] When did you next see the police?— I do not think I saw the police till Mr. Hare came to my place with his horses.

[[#rc4433|4433]] Did he ask you had you seen the Kellys?— Yes.

[[#rc4434|4434]] What did you tell him?— I told him I had not.

[[#rc4435|4435]] Had you?— I had seen [[Ned Kelly|Ned Kelly]] in December or January, after the police were murdered.

[[#rc4436|4436]] You had seen Ned Kelly and you told the officers you had not?— Yes.

[[#rc4437|4437]] Where did you see him?— I went to the [[Kilfera|Kilfera]] station early in the morning after sheep. We were fencing, for the station, and he crossed the road and bid good morning to me; he was riding a bay horse.

[[#rc4438|4438]] Was he armed?— I did not see any arms; he might have been under his coat.

[[#rc4439|4439]] Mr. Hare asked you might he put his horses into your paddock?— Yes.

[[#rc4440|4440]] What did you reply?— Senior-constable [[SConst Mills|Mills]] came to my place, and I told him I would not give him any hay; I was frightened to give him any hay, and that if he went to Tom Lloyd’s place he could get plenty of hay there. He said they were camped and had put up their tents at the creek, and it was too late to go to Tom Lloyd's place.

[[#rc4441|4441]] What time was this in the evening?— Just dusk.

[[#rc4442|4442]] Did they put the horses in your paddock?— Yes.

[[#rc4443|4443]] Did you give them hay?— Yes.

[[#rc4444|4444]] Did they pay you?— Yes; fifteen shillings every morning for the hay for 21 horses.

[[#rc4445|4445]] Did you refuse at first to give it?— Yes.

[[#rc4446|4446]] Why?— Because I was fearing that the [[Sympathizers|sympathizers]] would have a “down” on me.

[[#rc4447|4447]] That is the Lloyds?— Yes.....

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