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== The Royal Commission evidence for 17/5/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 17/5/1881|day 21]])
[[../../people/peB/barryDpc.html|'''Const Daniel Barry''']] '''sworn and examined''' .
''Present:''
The Honorable F. LONGMORE , M.L.A., in the Chair;
J. H. Graves, Esq:, M.L.A., G. R. Fincham, Esq., M.L.A.,
G. W. Hall , Esq. , M.L.A., W. Anderson , Esq., M.L.A.,
J. Gibb , Esq. , M.L.A., E. J. Dixon , Esq. , J.P.,
''Mr. O'Connor called attention to a [[Photographs|paragraph]] in the Age of the previous day which he considered reflected upon him.''
''The Chairman stated that the Commission disclaimed all connection with the paragraph in question.''
<span id="rc7774_7275">[[#rc7774_7275|7774.7275]]</span> ''By the Commission''— What are you?— Mounted constable.
<span id="rc7774_7276">[[#rc7774_7276|7774.7276]]</span> Stationed where?— Victoria Barracks, at present.
<span id="rc7774_7277">[[#rc7774_7277|7774.7277]]</span> Do you remember hearing of the murder of the three police officers in 1878, in the North-Eastern district?— I do. I was then stationed at Learmonth, in the South-Western district.
<span id="rc7774_7278">[[#rc7774_7278|7774.7278]]</span> Did you propose to go to the North-Eastern district?— I applied to be transferred to that district.
<span id="rc7774_7279">[[#rc7774_7279|7774.7279]]</span> Were you engaged in searching after the Kellys?— Yes.
<span id="rc7774_7280">[[#rc7774_7280|7774.7280]]</span> With how many parties?— I do not know the number of parties. I was, in fact, continually employed, and out.
<span id="rc7774_7281">[[#rc7774_7281|7774.7281]]</span> How many constables went out in those search parties?— Different numbers, with different officers.
<span id="rc7774_7282">[[#rc7774_7282|7774.7282]]</span> Just state what you know—had the different superintendents different methods?— Yes, I think so.
<span id="rc7774_7283">[[#rc7774_7283|7774.7283]]</span> Whom were you under first?— Under Mr. [[Nicolson|Nicolson.]]
<span id="rc7774_7284">[[#rc7774_7284|7774.7284]]</span> What was his method the first time when you were out?— The ordinary [[Police Search Parties|search parties]], with this difference, camping at night.
<span id="rc7774_7285">[[#rc7774_7285|7774.7285]]</span> How many, about, in a party?— About eight or nine.
<span id="rc7774_7286">[[#rc7774_7286|7774.7286]]</span> What was the difference in camping at night?— We would camp, and have tea, put out the fires where we camped, catch all our horses again, and remove in the darkness of night to some other place, perhaps a mile away.
<span id="rc7774_7287">[[#rc7774_7287|7774.7287]]</span> That was a precaution against surprise?— I think so.
<span id="rc7774_7288">[[#rc7774_7288|7774.7288]]</span> Would the eight or nine men make a great noise in going from one place to another?— In the darkness of night?
<span id="rc7774_7289">[[#rc7774_7289|7774.7289]]</span> Yes?— Yes, they would.
<span id="rc7774_7290">[[#rc7774_7290|7774.7290]]</span> Had a second camp been selected previously?— I presume so, but I do not know.
<span id="rc7774_7291">[[#rc7774_7291|7774.7291]]</span> Do not you know whether it was taken up indiscriminately or not?— I was never told. I simply went where the others led to.
<span id="rc7774_7292">[[#rc7774_7292|7774.7292]]</span> Did you in any of those search parties understood that you came close upon the Kellys?— Not until a certain time in the [[Warby Ranges|Warby Ranges]] with Mr. [[Hare|Hare]].
<span id="rc7774_7293">[[#rc7774_7293|7774.7293]]</span> What time was that—was that the first time when you came across, when you were with the parties as you thought?— As far as I know, that was the first time we saw any trace or sign. At one time I was at the [[Euroa|Euroa Bank]] robbery—of course they had been there the night before—that was under Mr. Nicolson ; but as for searching for them, the first time was with Mr. Hare , in the Warby Ranges .
<span id="rc7774_7294">[[#rc7774_7294|7774.7294]]</span> What led you to think you were close on them then?— By finding horse marks, the print of shod horses where we camped.
<span id="rc7774_7295">[[#rc7774_7295|7774.7295]]</span> You say you were at the Euroa Bank robbery?— Yes, after the robbery.
<span id="rc7774_7296">[[#rc7774_7296|7774.7296]]</span> You came down with Detective [[Ward|Ward]] of [[Johnston|Johnson]]'s party?— Yes.
<span id="rc7774_7297">[[#rc7774_7297|7774.7297]]</span> Were you told off as one of the party to remain in the cave watching [[Mrs Margaret Byrne|Mrs. Byrne]]'s house?— Yes.
<span id="rc7774_7298">[[#rc7774_7298|7774.7298]]</span> What time was that?— There was one party immediately after the [[Jerilderie|Jerilderie]] robbery of Mr. Hare's
<span id="rc7774_7299">[[#rc7774_7299|7774.7299]]</span> Were you in that party?— Yes.
<span id="rc7774_7300">[[#rc7774_7300|7774.7300]]</span> How long were you there, approximately?— I think about forty-five days in Mr. Hare's party, watching Mrs. Byrne's house.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 17/5/1881 ==
''''''
=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 17/5/1881|day 21]])
[[../../people/peB/barryDpc.html|'''Const Daniel Barry''']] '''sworn and examined''' .
''Present:''
The Honorable F. LONGMORE , M.L.A., in the Chair;
J. H. Graves, Esq:, M.L.A., G. R. Fincham, Esq., M.L.A.,
G. W. Hall , Esq. , M.L.A., W. Anderson , Esq., M.L.A.,
J. Gibb , Esq. , M.L.A., E. J. Dixon , Esq. , J.P.,
''Mr. O'Connor called attention to a [[Photographs|paragraph]] in the Age of the previous day which he considered reflected upon him.''
''The Chairman stated that the Commission disclaimed all connection with the paragraph in question.''
<span id="rc7774_7275">[[#rc7774_7275|7774.7275]]</span> ''By the Commission''— What are you?— Mounted constable.
<span id="rc7774_7276">[[#rc7774_7276|7774.7276]]</span> Stationed where?— Victoria Barracks, at present.
<span id="rc7774_7277">[[#rc7774_7277|7774.7277]]</span> Do you remember hearing of the murder of the three police officers in 1878, in the North-Eastern district?— I do. I was then stationed at Learmonth, in the South-Western district.
<span id="rc7774_7278">[[#rc7774_7278|7774.7278]]</span> Did you propose to go to the North-Eastern district?— I applied to be transferred to that district.
<span id="rc7774_7279">[[#rc7774_7279|7774.7279]]</span> Were you engaged in searching after the Kellys?— Yes.
<span id="rc7774_7280">[[#rc7774_7280|7774.7280]]</span> With how many parties?— I do not know the number of parties. I was, in fact, continually employed, and out.
<span id="rc7774_7281">[[#rc7774_7281|7774.7281]]</span> How many constables went out in those search parties?— Different numbers, with different officers.
<span id="rc7774_7282">[[#rc7774_7282|7774.7282]]</span> Just state what you know—had the different superintendents different methods?— Yes, I think so.
<span id="rc7774_7283">[[#rc7774_7283|7774.7283]]</span> Whom were you under first?— Under Mr. [[Nicolson|Nicolson.]]
<span id="rc7774_7284">[[#rc7774_7284|7774.7284]]</span> What was his method the first time when you were out?— The ordinary [[Police Search Parties|search parties]], with this difference, camping at night.
<span id="rc7774_7285">[[#rc7774_7285|7774.7285]]</span> How many, about, in a party?— About eight or nine.
<span id="rc7774_7286">[[#rc7774_7286|7774.7286]]</span> What was the difference in camping at night?— We would camp, and have tea, put out the fires where we camped, catch all our horses again, and remove in the darkness of night to some other place, perhaps a mile away.
<span id="rc7774_7287">[[#rc7774_7287|7774.7287]]</span> That was a precaution against surprise?— I think so.
<span id="rc7774_7288">[[#rc7774_7288|7774.7288]]</span> Would the eight or nine men make a great noise in going from one place to another?— In the darkness of night?
<span id="rc7774_7289">[[#rc7774_7289|7774.7289]]</span> Yes?— Yes, they would.
<span id="rc7774_7290">[[#rc7774_7290|7774.7290]]</span> Had a second camp been selected previously?— I presume so, but I do not know.
<span id="rc7774_7291">[[#rc7774_7291|7774.7291]]</span> Do not you know whether it was taken up indiscriminately or not?— I was never told. I simply went where the others led to.
<span id="rc7774_7292">[[#rc7774_7292|7774.7292]]</span> Did you in any of those search parties understood that you came close upon the Kellys?— Not until a certain time in the [[Warby Ranges|Warby Ranges]] with Mr. [[Hare|Hare]].
<span id="rc7774_7293">[[#rc7774_7293|7774.7293]]</span> What time was that—was that the first time when you came across, when you were with the parties as you thought?— As far as I know, that was the first time we saw any trace or sign. At one time I was at the [[Euroa|Euroa Bank]] robbery—of course they had been there the night before—that was under Mr. Nicolson ; but as for searching for them, the first time was with Mr. Hare , in the Warby Ranges .
<span id="rc7774_7294">[[#rc7774_7294|7774.7294]]</span> What led you to think you were close on them then?— By finding horse marks, the print of shod horses where we camped.
<span id="rc7774_7295">[[#rc7774_7295|7774.7295]]</span> You say you were at the Euroa Bank robbery?— Yes, after the robbery.
<span id="rc7774_7296">[[#rc7774_7296|7774.7296]]</span> You came down with Detective [[Ward|Ward]] of [[Johnston|Johnson]]'s party?— Yes.
<span id="rc7774_7297">[[#rc7774_7297|7774.7297]]</span> Were you told off as one of the party to remain in the cave watching [[Mrs Margaret Byrne|Mrs. Byrne]]'s house?— Yes.
<span id="rc7774_7298">[[#rc7774_7298|7774.7298]]</span> What time was that?— There was one party immediately after the [[Jerilderie|Jerilderie]] robbery of Mr. Hare's
<span id="rc7774_7299">[[#rc7774_7299|7774.7299]]</span> Were you in that party?— Yes.
<span id="rc7774_7300">[[#rc7774_7300|7774.7300]]</span> How long were you there, approximately?— I think about forty-five days in Mr. Hare's party, watching Mrs. Byrne's house.....
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