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== The Royal Commission evidence for 11/5/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 11/5/1881|day 18]])
''''''Constable Alfred John [[Const Faulkiner|Faulkiner]]''' giving evidence'''
<span id="rc5619">[[#rc5619|5619]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Then, if that was done, they could not be there without your finding them?— Yes.
<span id="rc5620">[[#rc5620|5620]]</span> ''By Mr. [[Hare|Hare]]'' . —If they were in the gullies, if one man did not catch them another would?— Yes.
<span id="rc5621">[[#rc5621|5621]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —You have been all through that district up the [[Mitta Mitta River|Mitta]], and all round the Kelly country, as it is called?— Yes.
<span id="rc5622">[[#rc5622|5622]]</span> Have you come to any conclusion as to what the movements of the [[KellyGang|Kellys]] were. Do you think they remained, being fed and provisioned, round about the [[Warby Ranges|Warby Range]], [[Greta|Greta]], [[Glenrowan|Glenrowan]], and their own [[Kelly Home|homestead]] and the [[Fifteen Mile Creek|Fifteen-mile Creek]], or do you think they remained away from that?— I think they were somewhere in the Warby ranges, from Greta across to Fifteen-mile Creek. That was their general track and their stronghold.
<span id="rc5623">[[#rc5623|5623]]</span> There in one circle of twenty or thirty miles?— Yes.
<span id="rc5624">[[#rc5624|5624]]</span> Round Glenrowan, where they were captured?— Yes.
<span id="rc5625">[[#rc5625|5625]]</span> ''By Mr. Hare''. —Before I came there, were you in other search parties?— Yes.
<span id="rc5626">[[#rc5626|5626]]</span> Did they work in the same way?— Yes.
<span id="rc5627">[[#rc5627|5627]]</span> Did they think they were throwing away that time?— No.
<span id="rc5628">[[#rc5628|3628]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Was it pleasant work?— I think not; some very cold nights.
<span id="rc5629">[[#rc5629|5629]]</span> It wears the clothes out quickly?— We were in plain clothes.
<span id="rc5630">[[#rc5630|5630]]</span> Is it not considered very rough work on them?— We used to put on any old clothes.
<span id="rc5631">[[#rc5631|5631]]</span> ''By Mr. Hare''. —You remember the night I watched Bryan 's place?— Yes.
<span id="rc5632">[[#rc5632|5632]]</span> Describe the state I was in that morning?— That evening we watched the place with Mr. Hare, [[Const William Canny|Canny]] and I; we stayed up in a potato field till about 2 a.m. in the morning. The other men were all round the house. Then Mr. Hare instructed Canny and me to go to Wangaratta. We got a party of police, and brought them back. We met Mr. Hare coming back, and He spoke to me. I would not speak to him at first. I did not know him, because his whole face was covered with icicles from the hoar frost. We watched there till daylight, and as soon as daylight we saddled up the horses and started to search the ranges.
<span id="rc5633">[[#rc5633|5633]]</span> And were out the whole day then?— Yes.
<span id="rc5634">[[#rc5634|5634]]</span> Do you remember going to some tracks up a hill?— Yes.
<span id="rc5635">[[#rc5635|5635]]</span> And we followed them?— Yes, some five or six miles.
<span id="rc5636">[[#rc5636|5636]]</span> The following day going up do you remember some information of a fire on the top of the hill?— Yes; we went to the top, and there was a fire and some stones removed, as if the men had lifted the stones, and the fire had got the start of them and spread on the hill. We thought it was a place no one would go unless they were compelled to go.
<span id="rc5637">[[#rc5637|5637]]</span> Did you see any marks of people going up?— I think we saw the marks of stones.
<span id="rc5638">[[#rc5638|5638]]</span> Do you remember we camped on a swamp that night?— Yes.
<span id="rc5639">[[#rc5639|5639]]</span> Next morning did we see any indications of anything?— Yes; we were going up the hill, and we came to a little pool of water, and we went to look at it, and there were three or four footprints there.
<span id="rc5640">[[#rc5640|5640]]</span> What sort of footprints?— A very big foot.
<span id="rc5641">[[#rc5641|5641]]</span> anything about the heel of the boot?— I do not remember.
<span id="rc5642">[[#rc5642|5642]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —It was stated in evidence when the ploughshares were stolen about Greta there were footprints with very high-heeled boots; was there anything remarkable about the footprints?— I could not say; the sand closes up.
<span id="rc5643">[[#rc5643|5643]]</span> Was it at the springs on Bruno's selection?— No.
<span id="rc5644">[[#rc5644|5644]]</span> ''By Mr. Hare''. —We continued searching those hills?— Yes.
<span id="rc5645">[[#rc5645|5645]]</span> Do you remember going up to , and his taking, us up to the place where he was?— Yes.
<span id="rc5646">[[#rc5646|5646]]</span> Do you remember seeing any indications there of anything?— We came across a tent and no person at home, and a couple of bags of chaff and a pair of hobbles and cooking utensils outside.
<span id="rc5647">[[#rc5647|5647]]</span> Any marks of horses?— Yes.
<span id="rc5648">[[#rc5648|5648]]</span> Shed or unshod?— I think shod.
<span id="rc5649">[[#rc5649|5649]]</span> We watched that place some time?— Yes, we did....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 11/5/1881 ==
''''''
=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 11/5/1881|day 18]])
''''''Constable Alfred John [[Const Faulkiner|Faulkiner]]''' giving evidence'''
<span id="rc5619">[[#rc5619|5619]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Then, if that was done, they could not be there without your finding them?— Yes.
<span id="rc5620">[[#rc5620|5620]]</span> ''By Mr. [[Hare|Hare]]'' . —If they were in the gullies, if one man did not catch them another would?— Yes.
<span id="rc5621">[[#rc5621|5621]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —You have been all through that district up the [[Mitta Mitta River|Mitta]], and all round the Kelly country, as it is called?— Yes.
<span id="rc5622">[[#rc5622|5622]]</span> Have you come to any conclusion as to what the movements of the [[KellyGang|Kellys]] were. Do you think they remained, being fed and provisioned, round about the [[Warby Ranges|Warby Range]], [[Greta|Greta]], [[Glenrowan|Glenrowan]], and their own [[Kelly Home|homestead]] and the [[Fifteen Mile Creek|Fifteen-mile Creek]], or do you think they remained away from that?— I think they were somewhere in the Warby ranges, from Greta across to Fifteen-mile Creek. That was their general track and their stronghold.
<span id="rc5623">[[#rc5623|5623]]</span> There in one circle of twenty or thirty miles?— Yes.
<span id="rc5624">[[#rc5624|5624]]</span> Round Glenrowan, where they were captured?— Yes.
<span id="rc5625">[[#rc5625|5625]]</span> ''By Mr. Hare''. —Before I came there, were you in other search parties?— Yes.
<span id="rc5626">[[#rc5626|5626]]</span> Did they work in the same way?— Yes.
<span id="rc5627">[[#rc5627|5627]]</span> Did they think they were throwing away that time?— No.
<span id="rc5628">[[#rc5628|3628]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Was it pleasant work?— I think not; some very cold nights.
<span id="rc5629">[[#rc5629|5629]]</span> It wears the clothes out quickly?— We were in plain clothes.
<span id="rc5630">[[#rc5630|5630]]</span> Is it not considered very rough work on them?— We used to put on any old clothes.
<span id="rc5631">[[#rc5631|5631]]</span> ''By Mr. Hare''. —You remember the night I watched Bryan 's place?— Yes.
<span id="rc5632">[[#rc5632|5632]]</span> Describe the state I was in that morning?— That evening we watched the place with Mr. Hare, [[Const William Canny|Canny]] and I; we stayed up in a potato field till about 2 a.m. in the morning. The other men were all round the house. Then Mr. Hare instructed Canny and me to go to Wangaratta. We got a party of police, and brought them back. We met Mr. Hare coming back, and He spoke to me. I would not speak to him at first. I did not know him, because his whole face was covered with icicles from the hoar frost. We watched there till daylight, and as soon as daylight we saddled up the horses and started to search the ranges.
<span id="rc5633">[[#rc5633|5633]]</span> And were out the whole day then?— Yes.
<span id="rc5634">[[#rc5634|5634]]</span> Do you remember going to some tracks up a hill?— Yes.
<span id="rc5635">[[#rc5635|5635]]</span> And we followed them?— Yes, some five or six miles.
<span id="rc5636">[[#rc5636|5636]]</span> The following day going up do you remember some information of a fire on the top of the hill?— Yes; we went to the top, and there was a fire and some stones removed, as if the men had lifted the stones, and the fire had got the start of them and spread on the hill. We thought it was a place no one would go unless they were compelled to go.
<span id="rc5637">[[#rc5637|5637]]</span> Did you see any marks of people going up?— I think we saw the marks of stones.
<span id="rc5638">[[#rc5638|5638]]</span> Do you remember we camped on a swamp that night?— Yes.
<span id="rc5639">[[#rc5639|5639]]</span> Next morning did we see any indications of anything?— Yes; we were going up the hill, and we came to a little pool of water, and we went to look at it, and there were three or four footprints there.
<span id="rc5640">[[#rc5640|5640]]</span> What sort of footprints?— A very big foot.
<span id="rc5641">[[#rc5641|5641]]</span> anything about the heel of the boot?— I do not remember.
<span id="rc5642">[[#rc5642|5642]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —It was stated in evidence when the ploughshares were stolen about Greta there were footprints with very high-heeled boots; was there anything remarkable about the footprints?— I could not say; the sand closes up.
<span id="rc5643">[[#rc5643|5643]]</span> Was it at the springs on Bruno's selection?— No.
<span id="rc5644">[[#rc5644|5644]]</span> ''By Mr. Hare''. —We continued searching those hills?— Yes.
<span id="rc5645">[[#rc5645|5645]]</span> Do you remember going up to , and his taking, us up to the place where he was?— Yes.
<span id="rc5646">[[#rc5646|5646]]</span> Do you remember seeing any indications there of anything?— We came across a tent and no person at home, and a couple of bags of chaff and a pair of hobbles and cooking utensils outside.
<span id="rc5647">[[#rc5647|5647]]</span> Any marks of horses?— Yes.
<span id="rc5648">[[#rc5648|5648]]</span> Shed or unshod?— I think shod.
<span id="rc5649">[[#rc5649|5649]]</span> We watched that place some time?— Yes, we did....
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