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04:09, 15 November 2015 Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 1/9/1881 ==
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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 1/9/1881|day 48]])
'''Sup Francis Augustus [[Hare|Hare]] '''giving evidence''''''
<span id="rc16439">[[#rc16439|16439]]</span> I see by your report that you said you would not accept any of the [[Reward|reward]]?— Yes, I did.
<span id="rc16440">[[#rc16440|16440]]</span> Did you apply to be allowed to participate in it?— I did. In sending in my report I said I would not accept of any; and subsequently, at the suggestion of Mr. Ramsay , who wrote to me and advised me to withdraw that portion of my report, I did so. He told me (I have got his letter, if you wish to see it) to withdraw that portion of the application, as he had intended to put a sum on the Estimates for me; and, as I was not likely to get it, he advised me to go in for the reward.
<span id="rc16441">[[#rc16441|16441]]</span> Are you aware whether the other superintendents engaged in that have applied also?— I believe they have, every one of them; Mr. [[Sadleir|Sadleir]] and Mr. [[O'Connor|O'Connor]], the only two officers engaged in it, both applied for it.
16442 You heard Captain [[Standish|Standish]]'s evidence yesterday?— I did.
<span id="rc16443">[[#rc16443|16443]]</span> Did you also know of the circumstances that he alluded to the arrangement made between himself and [[James Wallace|Wallace]] the schoolmaster to have an interview?— I think I did. I think he told me everything I remember I advised him strongly not to do it.
16444 Did he make you aware that the interview took place?— That was after I left the district that meeting took place, and he told me he had been up to Benalla—a suggestion had been made by Wallace.
<span id="rc16445">[[#rc16445|16445]]</span> You were not informed what took place at the interview?— Nothing more than I have said, that he was asked to make an appointment to meet Joe Byrne in the bush.
<span id="rc16446">[[#rc16446|16446]]</span> ''By Mr. Nicolson''— With reference to your allusions to [[Harry Power|Power]]'s case, you spoke of Mr. Montford being promoted?— Yes.
<span id="rc16447">[[#rc16447|16447]]</span> And you also say I was promoted at the time to Melbourne ?— Yes, you were brought down to Melbourne .
16448 Do you mean to say I was brought down as a promotion?— Yes, you got extra pay; not in rank
<span id="rc16449">[[#rc16449|16449]]</span> Are you not aware that Inspector Ryall, my predecessor in the detectives, received extra, and I merely got that?— Yes.
16450 That £100 a year was attached to the office?— Yes, the officer in charge of the detectives. You got an increase of £100 a year I say.
16451 £100 a year was attached to the office?— I say you received £100 a year when you came down to Melbourne after the Power capture.
<span id="rc16452">[[#rc16452|16452]]</span> Do you say you were the leader of the Power party?— I say I was the organizer.
<span id="rc16453">[[#rc16453|16453]]</span> Can you make a distinction between that and leader?— I should. I say I organized the party, and I took you up instead of you taking me; and I took my clerk Montfort, and my four constables, and drove you up in my own buggy to Benalla, and I was communicated with about the matter before you were, and I had carte blanche to make whatever arrangements I chose.
16454 It has been said there was only one trip to Benalla?— There were two trips.
<span id="rc16455">[[#rc16455|16455]]</span> You and I then went up together?— Yes.
16456 And made the arrangements?— No, I do not think we made any arrangements.
<span id="rc16457">[[#rc16457|16457]]</span> Did you not see the person who was to lead us?— I am not certain of that. I do not think we saw the person at all. As far as I can recollect, we did not on the first occasion. We went up there about Ned Kelly being arrested by Mr. Nicholas and his party, and we had some communication with him; and Mr. Nicholas told us that he knew of some person that could give information about Power, and we asked him and pressed him to give us that information, and Mr. Nicholas did not do so. And then we returned to town with Ned Kelly , who was brought down to the Depot. Ned Kelly and Power were together.
<span id="rc16458">[[#rc16458|16458]]</span> When I came up to Benalla in July 1879 to relieve you, were you not on leave of absence at that time?— I think I had just come, about four days before, from a search party.
16459 Were you not on leave of absence?— No, I was sick.
<span id="rc16460">[[#rc16460|16460]]</span> Was there a coursing meeting going on at that time?— Yes, just after you came up there was one going on in Benalla.
16461 Did you attend that?— I did.....
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