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04:03, 15 November 2015 Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 13/4/1881 ==
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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 13/4/1881|day 12]])
'''[[Sadleir|Superintendent Sadeir]]''' '''giving evidence'''
2568 Who met Mr. Hare first when he arrived?[[ev80-06-28Glenrowan|—]] He walked into the office and found us all there.
2569 Who first got up and shook hands with him?— I thought I did.
2570 Then we had some preliminary conversation?— Yes.
<span id="rc2571">[[#rc2571|2571]]</span> How long did that last?— We asked several questions about things—I did—and Mr. [[Hare|Hare]] talked of some indifferent matters perhaps five or ten minutes before business began.
<span id="rc2572">[[#rc2572|2572]]</span> That would bring us up to twelve, and you say we did not leave the office till one?— No, I did not say that.
<span id="rc2573">[[#rc2573|2573]]</span> When did we leave the office then?— Some of us left the office as soon as the business part of the conversation was over and came in again.
2574 Came again?— I think so.
<span id="rc2575">[[#rc2575|2575]]</span> Who did that?— You must understand I am only speaking from recollection of matters that seemed to me then, and even now, very unimportant. I am quite sure they all left the office at intervals after the business conversation was over. I have a recollection of seeing Mr. Hare speaking outside the office, I think to Mr. [[O'Connor|O'Connor]]. I have the recollection of being outside the office myself, and I have a recollection of Mr. [[Nicolson|Nicolson]] leaving the office; but this was all after the business part of the conversation was over.
2576 And before lunch time?— And before lunch time.
<span id="rc2577">[[#rc2577|2577]]</span> Do you not remember that Mr. O'Connor went out first?— That is my impression decidedly.
<span id="rc2578">[[#rc2578|2578]]</span> Who went out after and was talking outside with him. Do you not remember my talking to you after they had gone out of the room, and turning to you, and saying, “Is there anything I have forgotten?” —Yes.
2579 Who was in the room then?— Only us two. That was after the business was over.
<span id="rc2580">[[#rc2580|2580]]</span> What was your reply?— I said, “Yes, you have told everything that I know to bear on the case.” You had made that appeal in Mr. Hare's presence also.
<span id="rc2581">[[#rc2581|2581]]</span> Yes, but at last, when we were alone together, I turned towards you, and I asked you if there was anything I had forgotten?— Yes.
2582 What was your reply?— To the effect that you had told him everything.
2583 ''By the Commission''. —And that is your opinion now as then?— Yes.
<span id="rc2584">[[#rc2584|2584]]</span> ''By Mr. Nicolson''. —You spoke of a large heap of papers on the left of the table containing the whole correspondence from the very beginning—a lot of old correspondence from the beginning of the outbreak to that date—was that alluded to at all?— I think that was pointed out by you to Mr. Hare.
<span id="rc2585">[[#rc2585|2585]]</span> Were they handled or interfered with?— No.
<span id="rc2586">[[#rc2586|2586]]</span> Do you remember that drawer in the table where I was seated—you know my usual seat?— Yes.
2587 Are there not two drawers?— Yes.
2588 Do you remember the drawer being open?— Yes.
2589 Were those particular papers in question connected with this enquiry, all the particular matters and special matters in that table?— Yes, they were all there.
2590 ''By the Commission''. —You had specially confidential letters in that drawer—is that one— [''showing a letter'']?— Yes.
<span id="rc2591">[[#rc2591|2591]]</span> Is there another drawer?— Yes, on the right-hand side.
<span id="rc2592">[[#rc2592|2592]]</span> ''By Mr. Nicolson''. —Was that interfered with?— No, that drawer was placed under Mr. Hare directly you left.
<span id="rc2593">[[#rc2593|2593]]</span> Did not this small drawer contain all—describe the size of the drawer?— An ordinary small table drawer.
<span id="rc2594">[[#rc2594|2594]]</span> How many packages—do you remember a large packet of papers, and that I said to Mr. Hare I had a particular reason I would like to keep them; they were of no use to him, and I would like to take them with me?— I remember an allusion of that sort for “Bruce's” papers.
<span id="rc2595">[[#rc2595|2595]]</span> You know the reason, I dare say?— I do not know that I do.
<span id="rc2596">[[#rc2596|2596]]</span> Do you remember those papers about the [[Kelly's Armour|armour]]. How many letters did you find in that drawer —you sent them down to me?— On the 20th November you asked me for two letters.
<span id="rc2597">[[#rc2597|2597]]</span> The letters connected with the armour?— You telegraphed me on the 18th, asking for the letters of this individual known as the “[[Diseased Stock Agent|diseased stock]]” man. I say, “Your telegram of the 18 th November, asking for this man's letter, came in my absence, and it had to wait my return. I send now three letters, February 26th, May 14th, and May 20th, and some memoranda, some notes made by you undated. I suppose these are what you refer to, as I can find no others.”
<span id="rc2598">[[#rc2598|2598]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —That was in answer to the telegram?— Yes, he asked for those papers by telegram, and I sent them.....
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