Royal Commission report day 20 page 3

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The Royal Commission evidence for 14/5/1881

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(see also introduction to day 20)

Const Canny further examined

7433 Did you see anybody or hear of anybody taking orders from Mr. O'Connor on that day?— No, I did not.

7434 Did you consider yourself that Mr. O'Connor had any standing on that day?— No, I did not with the Victorian police.

7435 Were you present when Senior-Constable Johnson to fire the house?— No, I was not there.

7436 You arrived with Mr. Hare in the morning, at Benalla?— Yes.

7437 Do you remember leaving the platform here?— Yes.

7438 Who left with you?— Constable Gascoigne.

7439 Who else?— Mr. Hare was in front of us.

7440 Who was second?— I could not tell you; there were three or four—a lot.

7441 Where was Mr. O'Connor at that time?— I did not see him at that time. I did not see him leave the platform.

7442 He was not in advance of you?— No.

7443 You saw Mr. Hare go through the wicket gate?— Yes.

7444 Did you also pass through the gate?— Yes.

7445 With who else?— Constable Gascoigne.

7446 Any others?— Yes, but I do not know who.

7447 Did you see Mr. O'Connor?— No; be was not amongst that number.

7448 Did you see Mr. O'Connor any time outside that one-rail fence until later on in the day?— No.

7449 At what time did you see him at any time outside that fence?— I could not tell the time, hut it was after Mr. Sadleir arrived.

7450 You did not know at the time the first volley was fired where he was, whether this side or the other side of the fence?— He was on this side.

7451 Did you see him at any time at any of the watercourses?— Yes.

7452 Which one?— The one down by the culvert — the road culvert.

7453 What time?— At four o'clock .

7454 Soon after your arrival?— Yes, about an hour.

7455 And after Mr. Hare had left the ground?— Yes.

7456 Did you see Mr. Hare after he was shot?— I saw him but I did not speak to him.

7457 Do you remember the engines leaving this station?— I heard them leave.

7458 How long would that be after the first volley was fired from the hotel?— A good long time. I could not tell.

7459 Could you fix it within something like a reasonable time?— Three quarters of an hour to an hour.

7460 There were two engines left—was it the first or second?— I do not remember whether there were two; it must have been from three quarters of an hour to an hour.

7461 It could not have been within ten minutes after Mr. Hare was shot?— No.

7462 Or a quarter of an hour?— No, I think not.

7463 After Mr. Hare was wounded did Gascoigne pass towards the Benalla end of Jones's hotel and you came back to the Wangaratta end?— Yes.

7464 I suppose you took your position then at this side of the house?— Not this side; I was in front of the house.

7465 What I want to ask is this, would Mr. O'Connor's position in the drain be between you and Gascoigne?— No, he was further down towards the railway line.

7466 Supposing his black trackers fired at the front of the house would their fire reach that house between your position and Gascoigne's?— Yes, it would.

7467 Therefore, as far as the front of the house was concerned, Mr. O'Connor was in front of the house between your position at the railway and Gascoigne?— Yes.....

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