Royal Commission report day 20 page 6

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The Royal Commission evidence for 14/5/1881

(full text transcription)

(see also introduction to day 20)

Const Canny giving evidence

7531 How long after—I think you said ten minutes before—after a considerable amount of shooting?— There were a lot of shots fired before I heard him speak.

7532 Was it like two or three continuous volleys, and could have been fired in about half a minute?— There was one volley and a lot of shots fired.

7533 You might say one discharge?— Yes.

7534 Did you hear the words Mr. Hare used when he told as he was wounded?— Yes, he said— “I am wounded;” he said— “Come on, Mr. O'Connor, and fetch your boys and surround the house.”

7535 If anybody stated that he accosted me in these words— “Mr. O'Connor, I am wounded, I am shot in the arm, I must go back,” it is not correct?— He might not have used “Mr.”

7536 Was that the purport of what he. said?— Yes.

7537 What distance was I from Mr. Hare when he spoke?— I could not form an opinion.

7538 Was there any person in a position to swear as to minute details after the first heavy volley in consequence of the smoke; could you see to he able to swear to what Mr. Hare did after the first heavy two or three volleys?— No, I could not; I know what he did before.

7539 You state the outlaws left after Mr. Hare left and fired?— After he was wounded.

7540 You said after he left?— After he left in front of Jones's; that is to my knowledge.

7541 After he left the front?— Mrs. Jones might have been out before; she came out very soon after the fire, I recognised her voice.

7542 Did Mrs. Jones come out by herself?— She came out by herself.

7543 Nobody following her?— I do not think so.

7544 When did the remainder of the women come out?— Mrs. Jones was the first woman out, she was scolding the police and calling them cowards.

7545 I mean by coming out, passing through the police lino?— No one had passed down the line.

7546 Till after Mr. Hare left?— No, I think not till then.

7547 And no woman passed down through the police dines till after Mr. Hare left?— No, I do not think there were any—none passed me.

7548 Did you hear me speak while the women were coming down through the police line—did you hear me challenge the women?— No.

7549 Did you hear anybody challenge the women?— Yes, I heard several constables.

7550 Would you swear they were all constables?— No.

7551 I might have challenged them?— Yes.

7552 By the Commission— What did you hear them say in challenging?— “Stop them, and say who goes there.”

7553 By Mr. O'Connor— Did you hear Constable Kirkham speak to the women?— I did not see him at all or hear him.

7554 You stated you received no commands from anybody after Mr. Hare left. In your opinion, was it necessary for any commands to have been given?— I do not know.

7555 Were you not instructed, as you say, by your officer to do a certain work?— Yes.

7556 And do you consider that it was necessary for any other officer to alter that plan?— The officer might, but I did not consider it necessary.

7557 You considered we were doing the best thing we could to get the Kellys with the small force we had?— Yes, I did.

7558 When was the first time in the morning that you first became acquainted with my position?— About four o'clock , before Mr. Sadleir arrived.

7559 Did you see me?— Barney the tracker informed me you were there.....

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