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Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence

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== The Royal Commission evidence for 10/5/1881 ==

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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 10/5/1881|day 17]])

''''''Constable Alfred John [[Const Faulkiner|Faulkiner]]''' giving evidence'''

<span id="rc5190">[[#rc5190|5190]]</span> Was it the opinion that they had been there?— I do not think so. I heard Senior-Constable [[SConst James|James]] having some argument with Sherritt, but Sherritt declared they had not been there.

<span id="rc5191">[[#rc5191|5191]]</span> Which Sherritt?— Old Sherritt, the father.

<span id="rc5192">[[#rc5192|5192]]</span> Is that Senior-Constable James of Mansfield ?— Yes.

<span id="rc5193">[[#rc5193|5193]]</span> Then, on your way to Byrne's hut, did you see anyone after leaving Sherritt's, and before you arrived there?— No, I do not remember seeing anyone.

<span id="rc5194">[[#rc5194|5194]]</span> You knew [[Aaron Sherritt|Aaron Sherritt]]?— Yes.

<span id="rc5195">[[#rc5195|5195]]</span> When did you first see him?— I saw him that morning when we rushed Mrs. Byrne's house. I think he had an axe on his shoulder, and had been cutting wood a little way from the house.

<span id="rc5196">[[#rc5196|5196]]</span> Was that the first time you saw him?— Yes.

<span id="rc5197">[[#rc5197|5197]]</span> Did you notice anyone speaking to him?— No.

<span id="rc5198">[[#rc5198|5198]]</span> You did not see Captain [[Standish|Standish]] speak to him?— No.

<span id="rc5199">[[#rc5199|5199]]</span> Or Mr. Sadleir?— No, I did not see anyone speak to him—I was in front of the house.

<span id="rc5200">[[#rc5200|5200]]</span> You were in advance?— Yes.

<span id="rc5201">[[#rc5201|5201]]</span> ''By Mr. [[Sadleir|Sadleir]]'' . —How many men were in Sergeant [[Steele|Steele]]'s party?— I should think about nine or ten.

<span id="rc5202">[[#rc5202|5202]]</span> As many as that?— I would not swear exactly to one.

<span id="rc5203">[[#rc5203|5203]]</span> And how many were in Senior-Constable [[SConst Flood|Flood]]'s party?— About seven or eight.

<span id="rc5204">[[#rc5204|5204]]</span> Would thirteen have been the total of the two parties?— It might have been.

<span id="rc5205">[[#rc5205|5205]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Were there any other parties except those two named?— Only those two that came from Myrtleford and the Gap.

<span id="rc5206">[[#rc5206|5206]]</span> There were others [[Beechworth|Beechworth]] besides those?— Yes.

<span id="rc5207">[[#rc5207|5207]]</span> How many besides those two parties?— Well, I could not really say; I should say between 30 and 40 police altogether.

<span id="rc5208">[[#rc5208|5208]]</span> Was there anybody else?— Yes, some reporters.

<span id="rc5209">[[#rc5209|5209]]</span> Was there not some special informant?— Yes, he was there with his face blacked.

<span id="rc5210">[[#rc5210|5210]]</span> ''By Mr Sadleir''. —You know the number of men in Beechworth that night?— I have not the slightest idea, because I had not been in Beechworth since the 4th of November.

<span id="rc5211">[[#rc5211|5211]]</span> You say there might have been only 13 in the party?— Yes.

<span id="rc5212">[[#rc5212|5212]]</span> With nine that Captain Standish brought up that would make 22?— Yes.

<span id="rc5213">[[#rc5213|5213]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Do you know that Captain Standish brought that number?— No.

<span id="rc5214">[[#rc5214|5214]]</span> You had come to the time of the [[Jerilderie|Jerilderie]] bank robbery; where were you then?— I was at the [[Murray River at Kellygang|Upper Murray]] .

<span id="rc5215">[[#rc5215|5215]]</span> Will you just go on with the personal things that came under your notice, and give us the dates as well as you can. Then came the [[Howlong|Howlong]] wires?— Yes. We returned then to Benalla, and were continually out with parties.

<span id="rc5216">[[#rc5216|5216]]</span> That brings you up to about [[events79-2_4Jerilderie Robbery|March 1879]]?— Yes.

<span id="rc5217">[[#rc5217|5217]]</span> What were you doing during the early part of 1879?— We were continually out on information, and in search of the gang.

<span id="rc5218">[[#rc5218|5218]]</span> Who was in charge in the early part of 1879, do you remember?— I think Superintendent [[Hare|Hare]].

<span id="rc5219">[[#rc5219|5219]]</span> Was Captain Standish up there?— Yes, he was occasionally, I believe, but I could not really say whether he was always there, because I was continually out.

<span id="rc5220">[[#rc5220|5220]]</span> Was Mr. Hare there in the early part of 1879?— Yes, I believe he was.

<span id="rc5221">[[#rc5221|5221]]</span> Then both Captain Standish and Mr. Hare were there at that time. How many used to go out in search parties?— Mr. Hare formed a search party, about eight or nine of us.

<span id="rc5222">[[#rc5222|5222]]</span> Had you any pack-horses?— Yes.

<span id="rc5223">[[#rc5223|5223]]</span> How many usually?— Mostly two pack-horses, sometimes three.

<span id="rc5224">[[#rc5224|5224]]</span> What did you carry on them?— We mostly had hammocks and some provisions.....

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