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Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence

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== The Royal Commission evidence for 18/5/1881 ==

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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 18/5/1881|day 22]])

'''SConst [[SConst John Kelly|Kelly]] giving evidence'''

[[#rc8574|8574]] They had enough to do to observe what was before them?— Yes.

[[#rc8575|8575]] Was it necessary to go up and speak to every man the same as you would men in the streets? — I do not think that was necessary, to speak to every one.

[[#rc8576|8576]] When you went round, was it sufficient to see every man at his post without speaking to him? —Yes, I did.

[[#rc8577|8577]] ''By the Commission''— On visiting your posts, did you see that they were properly posted?—Yes; I saw them.

[[#rc8578|8578]] Did you ask them if they hand ammunition?— Yes, I asked [[Const Daniel Barry|Barry]].

[[#rc8579|8579]] If a man had no ammunition would he be utterly useless?— He would.

[[#rc8580|8580]] Would it not be your duty to see, not only that he was at his place but that his arms were serviceable, and that he was not wounded?— The men would inform an officer if the arms had anything the matter with them, and if they had not ammunition.

[[#rc8581|8581]] Could they do that without leaving their posts if officers did not go round?— No.

[[#rc8582|8582]] ''By Mr. Sadleir''— Did you see Constable [[Const J Dwyer|Dwyer]] going round?— No, I did not see him going round.

[[#rc8583|8583]] Did you see him going from post to post, not quite round, but part of the way?— Yes, I remember now I did see him.

[[#rc8584|8584]] Have you any knowledge of who sent him?— Of my own knowledge I did not know. I heard that you sent him.

[[#rc8585|8585]] If a favorable entry is made upon your record, you are informed of that, are you?— No

[[#rc8586|8586]] Is not that an established rule in the department, and not a role by me or any officer?— I believe by the head of the department.

[[#rc8587|8587]] There is no constable who is aware of what is there. Will Mr. Longmore object to read the last entry, but one.– [ ''The same was read by the Chairman as follows:–''] “16/8/80. Was engaged in the Kelly search since October 1878, and was one of the first party of police who attacked the gang at Glenrowan on the 28th June 1880. Showed great zeal throughout, and special bravery and efficiency in the attack on the gang, and in assisting in the capture of Ned Kelly. Supt. [[Sadleir|Sadleir]].–Recommended for promotion, half-yearly return.” That is 27/8/80.

''Mr. Sadleir'' — That is an addendum?

''The Chairman'' — Yes.

[[#rc8588|8588]] ''By Mr. Sadleir (to the witness)''— Does that satisfy your expectations?— Yes, the entry satisfies me.

[[#rc8589|8589]] Do you think anything in the world could have been stated more fairly?— No; I consider that is very fair.

[[#rc8590|8590]] Did not I select you, and give you to understand so, from the opinion I have of your services– did I not select you for [[Hedi|Hedi]], thinking you the best man I could find for it?— I believe you did.

[[#rc8591|8591]] ''By the Commission (to Mr. Sadleir)''— Did you tell him that you selected him on that account?

[[#rc8592|8592]] ''By Mr. Sadleir (to the witness)''— Do you remember my putting it that way to you; do you remember my saying, “Kelly, you are the only man I have fit to go”?— Yes, I remember that.

[[#rc8593|8593]] Was not it only as a temporary arrangement to get the first difficulty over; you did not look upon it as my placing you there permanently, only that as long as the anger lasted after that day at Glenrowan did I wish you to be in charge?— Yes; but I told you I would take any station in the district before Greta.

''Mr. Sadleir'' — I know you did.

[[#rc8594|8594]] ''By the Commission''— Did you distinctly understand, from what Mr. Sadleir told you, that it was to be only a temporary remove to Greta?— Yes, temporary.

[[#rc8595|8595]] You knew that?— Yes.

[[#rc8596|8596]] Have you any idea of the meaning of “temporary”?— I expected four or five months.

[[#rc8597|8597]] There are men put temporarily in charge of a station, and left there for six or seven years?— I do not think so. That would not be temporary.

[[#rc8598|8598]] ''By Mr. Sadleir''— Did not I hand out promises of promotion to you as far as I was authorized? — Yes.....

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