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04:06, 15 November 2015 Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 18/5/1881 ==
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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 18/5/1881|day 22]])
'''SConst [[SConst John Kelly|Kelly]] giving evidence'''
<span id="rc8599">[[#rc8599|8599]]</span> And there was nothing more that I could do?— There was not.
<span id="rc8600">[[#rc8600|8600]]</span> ''By the Commission''— Would you consider that, if hopes of promotion were held out to you, a very unfavorable report would strike those hopes down?— That would prevent it.
''Mr. Sadleir'' — But the hopes of promotion were conditional, and the condition was not fulfilled.
''The Commission'' — “27/9/80” –that is the date of that recommendation for promotion; there is no condition here.
''Mr. Sadleir'' — Bot the conversation was after that he was recommended for promotion, and he probably knew it. When a man is specially recommended I usually tell him, but it was after that recommendation that this conversation took place and those further hopes of promotion were held out.
''The Commission'' — And after that conversation you wrote this minute upon the paper?
''Mr. Sadleir'' — Which minute?
''The Commission'' — The last one.
''Mr. Sadleir'' — Yes.
''The Commission'' — And that was in your mind to prevent the promotion.
''Mr. Sadleir'' — Yes. I had no particular view to do it; it was to express exactly my opinion, without regard to any other consideration.
''The Commission'' — What would be the effect of that expression of opinion?
''Mr. Sadleir'' — No doubt it would be injurious to the man.
''The Commission'' — Do we understand you to say that, irrespective of this private record sheet, when a man was recommended for promotion, you generally informed him of it?
''Mr. Sadleir'' — No, when a man was specially recommended for promotion.
<span id="rc8601">[[#rc8601|8601]]</span> ''By Mr. Sadleir (to the witness)''— I ask you, as a sensible man, put yourself for a moment in the position of an officer in charge of a difficult district like that, what would your feelings be after a disappointment if a man you chose declined, for any reason whatever, to go into the place?— Into which place?
<span id="rc8602">[[#rc8602|8602]]</span> I say–put yourself in the position of an officer in charge of a district like that, would it not be a disappointment to you if a man you selected for a difficult and dangerous post showed a disinclination to go?— Yes.
<span id="rc8603">[[#rc8603|8603]]</span> I ask you the same: have you any harshness to complain of in that minute of mine; is it any exaggeration of your own statement?— I believe it is injurious to me.
<span id="rc8604">[[#rc8604|8604]]</span> Is it any exaggeration of the reasons you gave me for not wishing to go?— No.
<span id="rc8605">[[#rc8605|8605]]</span> Is it not my duty, without any personal favor to you, or any consideration for your private feelings and interests, to say exactly what I thought was fair?— Yes.
<span id="rc8606">[[#rc8606|8606]]</span> There is only one question more, and I suppose there is a reference to some jealousy felt by the force–whether officers or men I do not know–as regards Mr. Hare's county of Bourke men–men of his own district: was there one man of Mr. Hare's district in the first attack upon Glenrowan–Gascoigne does not belong to his district?— No.
<span id="rc8607">[[#rc8607|8607]]</span> Never did?— Never did.
<span id="rc8608">[[#rc8608|8608]]</span> Phillips was not of his district? — He was transferred, I believe.
<span id="rc8609">[[#rc8609|8609]]</span> And Arthur?— Yes.
<span id="rc8610">[[#rc8610|8610]]</span> And Barry, he was an exception, he might be a Bourke man?— Yes, Barry was Bourke at the time.
<span id="rc8611">[[#rc8611|8611]]</span> No, he was a Western district man; yourself, you were a North-Eastern district man?— Yes.
<span id="rc8612">[[#rc8612|8612]]</span> Where could the jealousy come in?— It was in the first set-off.
<span id="rc8613">[[#rc8613|8613]]</span> I understand it to be Glenrowan. As regards Glenrowan, there was no man to be jealous of because he belonged to Bourke–Mr. Hare's district?— No.
<span id="rc8614">[[#rc8614|8614]]</span> ''By Mr. Hare''— You were at Benalla when I relieved Mr. Nicolson on the 2nd June?— I was; I was stationed at Benalla.
<span id="rc8615">[[#rc8615|8615]]</span> Do you remember an agent, I will not mention his name, coming down from Beechworth to see me?— Yes.....
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