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Jack Lloyd snr,

Importance of Jack Lloyd

A member of the Kelly family and a sympathizer. Played a role in the arrest of Harry Power.

I was 5 feet 6 inches tall and had hair grey hair and eyes

Links to the KellyGang below , Early Years., Teenage years , First run in with the law , Harry Power , Family.,

Family

parents ...wife Catherine (Kate) Quinn ' .'Children Bridget , Tom, Mary, Patrick (Paddy) brothers Tom Lloyd.. sisters ... sister in law Ellen Kelly

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Photograph Early years I was the son of Welsh horse dealers who settled in Ireland. I arrived in Victoria in 1842 with his brother Tom. In 1852 I married Kate Quinn and in 1857 Tom was born.. Run ins with the law In about 1860 Jack was charged with assault, drunkenness, disorderly conduct and larceny. I got off all these charges in the Donnybrook court.

On 21/03/1862 I was charged with drunk and disorderly but discharged by the Kilmore court

On 22/4/1862 I was back in the Kilmore court charged with larceny - but they discharged me again

By about 1864 we had moved to North Eastern Victoria

Soon after I arrived in north eastern Victoria Tom Lloyd and I were convicted of horse stealing at Beechworth and sentenced to 3 years

On 19/10/1865 I was convicted of cattle stealing at Beechworth and sentenced to 5 years

In about March 1869 I was released from Pentridge prison

Const Flood me for maliciously killing a horse belonging to a neighbor. I got four years for that. (RC12588) see (RC3239)(RCApp10)

Problem of Harry Power In 1870 Harry Power was suspected of a number of hold ups and in April a warrant was issued in the court in Kilmore. Before Harry Power was suspected I was arrested but the crimes seemed to continue.

Some say that I was prepared to help the police with Power in exchange for the £500 reward.

This is in part is what Sup Hare said about the help I provided in his book 'The Last of the Bushrangers":

"The Government had offered a reward of £500 for the capture of Power, and my brother officer offered this tempting bait to L-. The man threw all kinds of difficulties in the way, but we both stuck to him, till at last he gave way and consented to undertake the task. We had no end of obstacles to overcome, but we were determined to succeed. The first thing we had to do was to find a route in the mountains where we could travel unseen, as Power had so many spies-"bush telegraphs," as they were called-throughout the district, that had we been seen by any one, our chances of success would have been small. The next thing was, to get the £15 from the squatter to send to Power. I put my initials on the coins, and we started away on Thursday morning, the party consisting of L- as guide, my brother officer, myself, my clerk, and a black-fellow."

". ....L , on leaving, led us to believe that he would return early the next morning, as he had only to ride about ten miles. ..."

"...Saturday morning came, and there we remained all day, without food. It was raining in torrents, and the cold was intense, and no fire. We sat waiting all Saturday, the water pouring down the sides of the mountain like rivers, but L- did not return and we began to think we had been made fools of, when about four o'clock in the afternoon we heard the sound of horse's hoofs, and to our great joy found it was L-. Our first greeting was, "What luck have you had?" He made no reply, dismounted, took a handkerchief out of his pocket, untied it, and there displayed the squatter's watch and chain. We saw at once that L- must have had an interview with Power, and we made him relate all that had happened during the time. He told us the Quinns doubted his honesty in wishing to see Power, and he was obliged to remain there for a day before he could even broach the subject of an interview with him, but after a good deal of caution Quinn consented to one of his associates taking L- to Power's hiding-place in the mountains.

"L- used to be a great companion of Power, and used to be paid well, both in horses and money, for any information concerning the movements of the police, but the temptation of getting the reward of £500 was too much for him, so he consented to sell his friend for the blood-money. We then took counsel with L- as to the best course to adopt in order to reach Power's place of concealment. L- suggested waiting till Sunday night, forgetting that our party had had scarcely any food for two days. He threw every obstacle in the way of our starting that evening, telling us that if we were seen about the Quinns' house that night he would be shot, and that it was quite impossible to pass the house, which we should have been obliged to do to get into the mountains where Power was, as the rivers were all flooded, and the house watched by dogs, so that neither man nor beast could pass without being observed, and if we were on foot we should certainly be torn to pieces. ..."

This is a good example of the victors writing history. See Hare's book for more of this sort of stuff, half truth at best

What happened to me Margaret Quinn was assaulted by James Quinn

I fell off a horse and died in 1877

Did one of my sons shoot himself at Greta (Argus16/1/1880)

What happened to Jack Lloyd's family

                                                             

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