Royal Commission report day 30 page 4

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The Royal Commission evidence for 15/6/1881

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(see also introduction to day 30)

[[../../people/peQ_R/rawlinsC.html|Mr Charles C. Rawlins]] giving evidence

11609 Carrying his gun and ammunition?— Yes.

11610 Where did you eventually leave Mr. Hare?— I eventually left him in the railway carriage while I went with ammunition to Senior-Constable Kelly.

11611 How long were you away before you again saw him?— About ten minutes.

11612 Where was he when you saw him the second time?— He was in the railway carriage.

11613 By the Commission— You stated you left him in the railway carriage?— I left him to get into the carriage, but I do not think he had sat in it. I went away twice from the platform.

11614 By Mr. O'Connor — When you first brought Mr. Hare back from the field?— That was Stanistreet's—we did not go to the station at first.

11615 And then from there you accompanied Mr. Hare to the platform?— Yes, and he was to get in the train and be sent back.

11616 Ten minutes after this you found him?— I went with ammunition to Senior-Constable Kelly because they were short, and I then saw Mr. Hare in the railway carriage with your wife and Mrs. Webb.

11617 Can you remember any remark the ladies made to you in reference to Mr. Hare?— They asked me to go down in the train with Mr. Hare.

11618 For what reason?— Because Mr. Hare was culling out—they were frightened.

11619 Do you remember Mr. Hare asking you to get him a horse to ride to Benalla?— Yes.

11620 He asked you. He said, “Rawlins, get me a horse, get me anything, so that I can get to Benalla”?— He said, “Send me down to Benalla,” and I then went to see the engine-driver to take me down, and your wife wanted me to go down in the carriage with them because they were frightened, Mr. Hare seemed so ill. The engine-driver told me that he was frightened to take the train.

11621 Then he said to you. “Rawlins, go and get the engine ready”?— Yes, he said, “Get an engine, get anything, send me back to Benalla.”

11622 And you went and told the engine-driver?— I did. He wanted to take him back. The engine-driver did not seem to know what to do.

11623 This engine went down without Mr. Hare?— No, the one that went down without Mr. Hare went down when fighting was going on.

11624 Before Mr. Hare got to the platform?— Yes.

11625 This second engine—what did Mr. Hare do—did he get into it?— I arranged with the engine-driver to take him on the engine, instead of taking the carriages back, to run down without them. He said, “I will run him down in ten minutes;” and I went and brought Mr. Hare out of the train and put him on the engine, and he went away.

11626 How long was that from the time he had been first wounded—to the best of your opinion. Time appeared to go very slowly there, I know, but you can give an opinion?— Well, I do not suppose it could have been more than twelve or fourteen minutes the whole thing, but of course it is so difficult at this moment to remember what happened.

11627 A quarter of an hour?— About that.

11628 Were you at Glenrowan the remainder of the day after Mr. Hare left?— I was there to the end.

11629 Did you see me going about?— Yes, I saw you twice before the prisoners came out. After that I saw you repeatedly.

11630 By the Commission— Which prisoners?— Reardon and family, and the others.

11631 By Mr. O' Connor— The mob, of prisoners?— Yes.

11632 What was I doing during that time?— During the time I saw you?

11633 Yes?— You came to the carriage to see your wife and tell her you were all right. The other time you were in conversation with Mr.Sadleir. That is all that I raw up to ten o'clock . You had a big handkerchief round your neck.

11634 At the time the prisoners came out did you see me?— No.....

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