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== The Royal Commission evidence for 14/4/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 14/4/1881|day 13]])
'''[[Sadleir|Superintendent Sadeir]]''' '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc2936">[[#rc2936|2936]]</span> By the Black Swamp or Glen Creek?— Glen Creek; then by Gobur, and run into [[Seymour|Seymour]] between Ghin Ghin and the railway line; that is seventy miles, the shortest route you can go.
<span id="rc2937">[[#rc2937|2937]]</span> Did you receive any police information of any member of the [[Kelly family|Kelly family]] being seen by the police in their search, immediately after the bank at Euroa robbery—would it be true that the police saw [[Kate Kelly|Kate Kelly]] on the very road you now have indicated?— I have never heard anything of the sort; I do not like speaking from memory where records can be had.
<span id="rc2938">[[#rc2938|2938]]</span> Would it be within your knowledge that the search parties of police—were you informed that the search parties of police who went that very road met Kate Kelly within a day or two of the bank robbery at Euroa?— No, I have no recollection of any such report.
<span id="rc2939">[[#rc2939|2939]]</span> That road you speak of now would go very close to the aunt we spoke of the other day?— Yes, it would go within four miles or so, or nearer; or they might have taken the very road, and got over the highlands of Tabletop, as it is called.
<span id="rc2940">[[#rc2940|2940]]</span> From [[Wodonga (2)|Wodonga]], did Mr. [[Nicolson|Nicolson]] leave you on his way down to Melbourne at [[Wangaratta|Wangaratta]]?
<span id="rc2941">[[#rc2941|2941]]</span> Did any of your men go along that road from Benalla, along the road you have just mentioned?— No; I think [[Mansfield|Mansfield]] did go that road.
<span id="rc2942">[[#rc2942|2942]]</span> We will know from some order in the Mansfield barracks what exactly was done on that occasion—have you got a clerk at Benalla?— I have.
2943 Did he remain there?— Yes, all the time.
2944 Did he open the correspondence?— He took care of every communication, everything in our absence.
2945 Is it usual to leave orders in writing about the route or verbally?— We are apt to do without them when in haste.
<span id="rc2946">[[#rc2946|2946]]</span> Does the sub-officer then who takes charge keep a diary of all he does?— He keeps a diary of all duties—the duty he does himself.
2947 Would his entry be “Ordered to proceed in such a way, started at such a time, and came back”?— No, not exactly that.
<span id="rc2948">[[#rc2948|2948]]</span> But it would contain each day's work?— The principal parts of each day's work.
2949 In other words, if the Commission asked for the instructions, and how they were carried out, given by you on that occasion at Wangaratta, and Mr. Nicolson at Benalla, will we find it written in any way?— You will find all those instructions in the papers now before you; in fact, I have seen them—all you can refer to.
<span id="rc2950">[[#rc2950|2950]]</span> Mr. Nicolson had a very short time in Benalla on that occasion, and if he gave the instructions verbally the men would, in the course of their duty, say how they carried them out?— Yes, there are only two men—Sergeant [[Whelan|Whelan]] and Senior-constable [[Benalla Police Station|Maude]]—you will have to examine about it.
2951 He was clerk of the office at the time?— Yes.
<span id="rc2952">[[#rc2952|2952]]</span> You stated just now that the constables talked about rushing the building, and that the general feeling was that the time kind not arrived?— That was my own feeling.
2953 That you did not at all events accept that offer?— Yes.
<span id="rc2954">[[#rc2954|2954]]</span> At that time was Cherry to your knowledge lying wounded in the outhouse?— I have stated all I knew about [[Cherry|Cherry]].
<span id="rc2955">[[#rc2955|2955]]</span> Was the offer to rush the house for the purpose of taking the Kellys that were in the main building or was it to save Cherry in case he was alive?— The offer by the police was to shoot the Kellys— to get them.
<span id="rc2956">[[#rc2956|2956]]</span> You were asked was it within your knowledge that the offer was made by civilians, you said “No”?— There was no offer made to me, I am certain of that.
<span id="rc2957">[[#rc2957|2957]]</span> Neither to rescue Cherry nor rush the house?— There was an offer from [[Cherry|Dixon]] to run the risk of going to the back building and getting out Cherry. I told them we would take care of him, and not let any harm come to him; and he grew anxious as the fire came on.
<span id="rc2958">[[#rc2958|2958]]</span> Dixon 's offer was after the fire was lighted?— No; he was offering several times in the day. Nobody except Dixon will come forward and say (if they speak the truth) that they made an offer to go and relieve Cherry. I am absolutely certain of that.
<span id="rc2959">[[#rc2959|2959]]</span> Did you know the state of Cherry from any information then; did any one say whether he was living or dead?— They said he was living; of course they gave us to understand he was living.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 14/4/1881 ==
''''''
=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 14/4/1881|day 13]])
'''[[Sadleir|Superintendent Sadeir]]''' '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc2936">[[#rc2936|2936]]</span> By the Black Swamp or Glen Creek?— Glen Creek; then by Gobur, and run into [[Seymour|Seymour]] between Ghin Ghin and the railway line; that is seventy miles, the shortest route you can go.
<span id="rc2937">[[#rc2937|2937]]</span> Did you receive any police information of any member of the [[Kelly family|Kelly family]] being seen by the police in their search, immediately after the bank at Euroa robbery—would it be true that the police saw [[Kate Kelly|Kate Kelly]] on the very road you now have indicated?— I have never heard anything of the sort; I do not like speaking from memory where records can be had.
<span id="rc2938">[[#rc2938|2938]]</span> Would it be within your knowledge that the search parties of police—were you informed that the search parties of police who went that very road met Kate Kelly within a day or two of the bank robbery at Euroa?— No, I have no recollection of any such report.
<span id="rc2939">[[#rc2939|2939]]</span> That road you speak of now would go very close to the aunt we spoke of the other day?— Yes, it would go within four miles or so, or nearer; or they might have taken the very road, and got over the highlands of Tabletop, as it is called.
<span id="rc2940">[[#rc2940|2940]]</span> From [[Wodonga (2)|Wodonga]], did Mr. [[Nicolson|Nicolson]] leave you on his way down to Melbourne at [[Wangaratta|Wangaratta]]?
<span id="rc2941">[[#rc2941|2941]]</span> Did any of your men go along that road from Benalla, along the road you have just mentioned?— No; I think [[Mansfield|Mansfield]] did go that road.
<span id="rc2942">[[#rc2942|2942]]</span> We will know from some order in the Mansfield barracks what exactly was done on that occasion—have you got a clerk at Benalla?— I have.
2943 Did he remain there?— Yes, all the time.
2944 Did he open the correspondence?— He took care of every communication, everything in our absence.
2945 Is it usual to leave orders in writing about the route or verbally?— We are apt to do without them when in haste.
<span id="rc2946">[[#rc2946|2946]]</span> Does the sub-officer then who takes charge keep a diary of all he does?— He keeps a diary of all duties—the duty he does himself.
2947 Would his entry be “Ordered to proceed in such a way, started at such a time, and came back”?— No, not exactly that.
<span id="rc2948">[[#rc2948|2948]]</span> But it would contain each day's work?— The principal parts of each day's work.
2949 In other words, if the Commission asked for the instructions, and how they were carried out, given by you on that occasion at Wangaratta, and Mr. Nicolson at Benalla, will we find it written in any way?— You will find all those instructions in the papers now before you; in fact, I have seen them—all you can refer to.
<span id="rc2950">[[#rc2950|2950]]</span> Mr. Nicolson had a very short time in Benalla on that occasion, and if he gave the instructions verbally the men would, in the course of their duty, say how they carried them out?— Yes, there are only two men—Sergeant [[Whelan|Whelan]] and Senior-constable [[Benalla Police Station|Maude]]—you will have to examine about it.
2951 He was clerk of the office at the time?— Yes.
<span id="rc2952">[[#rc2952|2952]]</span> You stated just now that the constables talked about rushing the building, and that the general feeling was that the time kind not arrived?— That was my own feeling.
2953 That you did not at all events accept that offer?— Yes.
<span id="rc2954">[[#rc2954|2954]]</span> At that time was Cherry to your knowledge lying wounded in the outhouse?— I have stated all I knew about [[Cherry|Cherry]].
<span id="rc2955">[[#rc2955|2955]]</span> Was the offer to rush the house for the purpose of taking the Kellys that were in the main building or was it to save Cherry in case he was alive?— The offer by the police was to shoot the Kellys— to get them.
<span id="rc2956">[[#rc2956|2956]]</span> You were asked was it within your knowledge that the offer was made by civilians, you said “No”?— There was no offer made to me, I am certain of that.
<span id="rc2957">[[#rc2957|2957]]</span> Neither to rescue Cherry nor rush the house?— There was an offer from [[Cherry|Dixon]] to run the risk of going to the back building and getting out Cherry. I told them we would take care of him, and not let any harm come to him; and he grew anxious as the fire came on.
<span id="rc2958">[[#rc2958|2958]]</span> Dixon 's offer was after the fire was lighted?— No; he was offering several times in the day. Nobody except Dixon will come forward and say (if they speak the truth) that they made an offer to go and relieve Cherry. I am absolutely certain of that.
<span id="rc2959">[[#rc2959|2959]]</span> Did you know the state of Cherry from any information then; did any one say whether he was living or dead?— They said he was living; of course they gave us to understand he was living.....
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