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Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence

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== The Royal Commission evidence for 17/5/1881 ==

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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 17/5/1881|day 21]])

'''Const [[Const Daniel Barry|Barry]] giving evidence'''

<span id="rc7774_7393">[[#rc7774_7393|7774.7393]]</span> You did not see the police attempting to fire on any going out?— No.

<span id="rc7774_7394">[[#rc7774_7394|7774.7394]]</span> Did you see Reardon himself?— No.

<span id="rc7774_7395">[[#rc7774_7395|7774.7395]]</span> Where you were stationed you were not in a favorable position to see who was at the front door?— No.

<span id="rc7774_7396">[[#rc7774_7396|7774.7396]]</span> Until they got away?— Until they got away.

<span id="rc7774_7397">[[#rc7774_7397|7774.7397]]</span> While you were there, what time did you receive any orders from any officers after Mr. Hare went away?— Not until the house was going to be set fire to.

<span id="rc7774_7398">[[#rc7774_7398|7774.7398]]</span> So far as you know, the police were without orders till the house was set fire to?— I under stood one man was in command; that would be in accordance with the regulations.

<span id="rc7774_7399">[[#rc7774_7399|7774.7399]]</span> Who did you understand was?— Up to the time Mr. [[Sadleir|Sadleir]] came, Senior-Constable [[SConst John Kelly|Kelly]].

<span id="rc7774_7400">[[#rc7774_7400|7774.7400]]</span> Did he give any instructions at all?— He came round to me with ammunition, and told me to keep my position, as it was a good one.

<span id="rc7774_7401">[[#rc7774_7401|7774.7401]]</span> What time was that?— Half-an-hour after the firing commenced.

<span id="rc7774_7402">[[#rc7774_7402|7774.7402]]</span> That was before daylight?— Yes.

<span id="rc7774_7403">[[#rc7774_7403|7774.7403]]</span> When did you receive any other instructions or order?— There was word passed round, but no order given, for the ranks to fire high. I do not know what time that was.

<span id="rc7774_7404">[[#rc7774_7404|7774.7404]]</span> Did you notice the effect of the firing upon the [[Jones' Glenrowan Inn|house]]?— Yes.

<span id="rc7774_7405">[[#rc7774_7405|7774.7405]]</span> Were the boards much riddled?— Yes; considerably riddled, and the roof as well.

<span id="rc7774_7406">[[#rc7774_7406|7774.7406]]</span> Were the walls riddled as badly as the roof?— I do not think it. Of course the roof made more noise—the bullets going through—being iron.

<span id="rc7774_7407">[[#rc7774_7407|7774.7407]]</span> You would see it before the house was set fire to?— A person would have to be very close to form a good idea; of course the bullets made a bigger rent going through the iron roof, and it being slanting too.

<span id="rc7774_7408">[[#rc7774_7408|7774.7408]]</span> Did you know anything about the arrangements that were being made to set fire to the house?— Yes, I was told a little about it. I was one of the men that was covering Senior-Constable [[Johnston|Johnson]] when he went to set fire to the house.

<span id="rc7774_7409">[[#rc7774_7409|7774.7409]]</span> Were you in the same position then that you were in in the morning?— No.

<span id="rc7774_7410">[[#rc7774_7410|7774.7410]]</span> How did you come to change?— Senior-Constable [[SConst P Mullane|Mullane]] came round and told me to come to the front of the house and fire into it while Johnson set fire to it at the end near the chimney—that is, at the wost end.

<span id="rc7774_7411">[[#rc7774_7411|7774.7411]]</span> Then you got your instructions from Senior-Constable Mullane?— He said Mr. Sadleir said so.

<span id="rc7774_7412">[[#rc7774_7412|7774.7412]]</span> Was it understood that the outlaws were in the chimneys of the house—was it thought so?— I never heard it said so.

<span id="rc7774_7413">[[#rc7774_7413|7774.7413]]</span> Did you see the chimneys as they stood?— Yes.

<span id="rc7774_7414">[[#rc7774_7414|7774.7414]]</span> Would you consider that they kind been greatly riddled with shot?— No, not greatly riddled.

<span id="rc7774_7415">[[#rc7774_7415|7774.7415]]</span> Very few marks upon them?— Very few indeed.

<span id="rc7774_7416">[[#rc7774_7416|7774.7416]]</span> Would you consider a man a good marksman who said he and others were told to fire into bricks to try and bring down the chimney, and yet left so few marks behind?— He ought to leave a few.

<span id="rc7774_7417">[[#rc7774_7417|7774.7417]]</span> How many rounds of ammunition did you fire that day, to your recollection?— About twenty-five.

<span id="rc7774_7418">[[#rc7774_7418|7774.7418]]</span> What were you armed with?— A Martini carbine—a short carbine.

<span id="rc7774_7419">[[#rc7774_7419|7774.7419]]</span> That took in a bullet?— Yes.

<span id="rc7774_7420">[[#rc7774_7420|7774.7420]]</span> You considered that every shot you fired went through the walls?— Yes. I was being fired on all the morning, else I would not have fired so much. I was preserving my ammunition, thinking I would want it before night.

<span id="rc7774_7421">[[#rc7774_7421|7774.7421]]</span> Were there others standing, about, not firing at all?— Yes, plenty; there were men that did not fire a shot.

<span id="rc7774_7422">[[#rc7774_7422|7774.7422]]</span> Why did they not?— Because, I suppose, their shot guns would not be of any use at that distance; I believe that was the reason.

<span id="rc7774_7423">[[#rc7774_7423|7774.7423]]</span> That they were reserving their fire till the outlaws came out?— Yes.

<span id="rc7774_7424">[[#rc7774_7424|7774.7424]]</span> Were those belonging to Mr. Hare's first party that went up with you, or men that joined subsequently?— There were none of Mr. Hare's party, because I believe there were but one or two shot guns in Mr. Hare's party.

<span id="rc7774_7425">[[#rc7774_7425|7774.7425]]</span> Was there never a general order given to fire?— No, I never heard any general order to fire. There was a signal to be given when the house was set fire to, but no other occasion.

<span id="rc7774_7426">[[#rc7774_7426|7774.7426]]</span> Did you fire without an order, or what caused you to fire?— I fired it when I was fired at by the outlaws. I thought of no other time.....

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