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== Mrs Ellen Kelly was Ned Kelly's mother ==
'''Links to the KellyGang''' '''below''' , [[#ey|Early Years]],[[#married|Married life]], [[#fitz|Fitzpatrick Incident]] , [[#mg|In Gaol]] , [[#glf|Glenrowan Siege]] , Ned Kelly's Trial , [[#mrh|My Return home]] , [[#fam|Family]] ,
== Family ==
'''father''' [[James Quinn|James]] Quinn of County Antrim Ireland '''mother''' [[James Quinn|Mary Ann]] McCluskey '''brothers and sisters''' Patrick(died 1850), Helen (Mrs [[Timothy and Helen Ryan|Timothy Ryan]]), [[Jack Quinn Jnr|Jack]], [[Robert Miller|Mary (Mrs Robert Miller)]], me, [[Jack Lloyd snr|Catherine (Kate-Mrs Jack Lloyd]] sen), [[Tom Lloyd|Jane (Mrs Tom Lloyd]] sen), [[Jimmy Quinn|James]](Jimmy),William, Mary Anne, [[Patrick Quinn|Margaret (Mrs Patrick Quinn]]), Grace , '''husbands''' [[John (Red) Kelly|John (Red) Kelly]],Bill Frost, [[George King|George King]] '''children''' [[Mary Jane Kelly|Mary Jane]], [[Anne Kelly and Alex Gunn|Anne]] 11/53, [[Ned Kelly|Edward (Ned)]] 12/54, [[Margaret Skillion|Margaret (Maggie)]] 55?, [[James Kelly|James]] 59, [[Dan Kelly|Daniel (Dan)]] 61, [[Kate Kelly|Catherine (Kate)]] 63, [[Grace Kelly|Grace]] Kelly 8/65 and [[Ellen (Frost) Kelly|Ellen]] Frost 71 and [[Ellen (King) Kelly|Ellen]] King 73 [[John King / Kelly|John King]] 75 and [[Alice (King) Kelly|Alice King]] 78 Photograph
== Links to the KellyGang ==
'''Early years''' I was Born in Ireland, in County Antrim. Catholics in the midst of a community of Scottish Presbyterians.
The family migrated to Melbourne in 1841 on the ship England.
Dad got work as a porter and took up a small farm on Mooney Ponds Creek near Brunswick. Later the family lived on a larger property at Broardmeadows.
When the family lived near Wallan Wallan James [[James Quinn|Quinn]] met Red Kelly in a pub at Donnybrook.
Red and I were married in November [[1824-1853 Events|1850]] at St Francis Catholic Church in Lonsdale St, Melbourne by Father '''Gerald Ward'''. '''Patrick Kennedy''' and '''Ellen Ryan''' were the witnesses.
'''Married life''' See [[[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (2)|JJK]])
In February [[1824-1853 Events|1851]] my first child, Mary Jane was born at [[Wallan Wallan|Wallan]]. She was baptised at [[Kilmore|Kilmore]] and died soon after. Next to be born in November [[1824-1853 Events|1853]] was [[Anne Kelly and Alex Gunn|Anne.]] She was born while Red was off [[Gold mining (2)|gold]] mining
In [[1854-1863 Events|1860]] we moved from [[Beveridge|Beveridge]] to [[Avenel|Avenel]] and rented a 40 acre farm. Avenel was a new start for us and in June 1861 [[Dan Kelly|Dan Kelly]] was born there. A little later that year Annie, [[Ned Kelly|Ned]] and [[Margaret Skillion|Maggie]] begin school at Avenel Common School. In 1863 [[Kate Kelly|Kate]] was born and in August 1865 [[Grace Kelly|Grace]] while we were at Avenel.
1866 was a big year for us, my son Ned saved Richard [[Richard Shelton|Shelton]] from drowing in the Avenel River and the year ended with the death of my husband, [[John (Red) Kelly|Red Kelly]]. That happened soon after he had been hounded by the law.
In April 1867 soon after my husband died I was fined £2 in Avenel for abusive language and threatening behaviour after a disagreement with my sister in law [[Jack Ryan (2)|Anne Ryan]]. A few months later I was back before the court charged with using abusive language against Anne's landlord. That was the last straw for me, so I packed up the family and we went off to Greta
In [[1864-1873 Events|1868]] I was living in an old pub at [[Greta|Greta]] with my children. My brother in law, James [[James Kelly Snr|Kelly]] was drunk when he set fire to the place. He was charged with arson and sentenced to death by Judge [[Redmond Barry|Barry]] in [[Beechworth Court|Beechworth]].
After this I moved to [[Kelly Home|Eleven Mile Creek]].
Soon after I was reported by the police to be running a sly grog shop at her [[Kelly Home|home]] at [[Eleven Mile Creek|Eleven Mile]] Creek. ([[Royal Commission report day 14 page 12|RC3255]])
Const [[SConst Flood|Flood]] made the following assessment of the way our family lived,'They seemed to have a very miserable way of living, and the general impression was that what they got they did not get by honesty. They were suspected of stealing sheep from neighboring squatters. ([[Royal Commission report day 34 page 7|RC12603]])
'''Bill (William) [[Bill Frost|Frost]]''' was a traveller who came to stay after my dear husband died. He had some good qualities but you had to look to find them. When I told Bill Frost that I was pregnant he decided to leave. He had been drinking heavily about this time and just could not stay around to help look after [[Ellen (Frost) Kelly|Ellen]]. I had her birth registered as Ellen Kelly. I would not let Bill Frost get away with it and I used Mr McDonnell, the solicitor in [[Benalla|Benalla]] to take out proceedings against him. I found out that my Bill was about to marry another local girl. My claim was heard before the Magistrate, Mr Butler on 17 October 1870. Bill was found to be the father and ordered to pay me 5/- shillings per week for two years and £7 2/- shillings in costs. Bill was also ordered to put up 2 securities of £20 each to make sure that I got paid. I am sure that he never thought that I would take him to court
'''Jane Graham''' and I were charged with stealing a saddle at Winton ([[The North Eastern Ensign at KellyGang 8/11/1872|Ensign8/11/1872]])
We got off the charge ([[The North Eastern Ensign at KellyGang 15/11/1872|Ensign15/11/1872]]) ([[The North Eastern Ensign at KellyGang 22/11/1872|Ensign22/11/1872]])
I was prosecuted for being drunk and assaulting Mrs Clancy of the Stat Hotel in Wangaratta ([[The North Eastern Ensign at KellyGang 22/11/1872|Ensign22/11/1872]])
Were we sued by James Dixon for debt as pay back ([[The North Eastern Ensign at KellyGang 7/3/1873|Ensign7/3/1873]])
'''Married [[George King|George King]]'''
I married George [[George King|King]] on [[1874-1877 Events|19/2/1874]] in Benalla. We were married by Rev William Gould of the Primative Methodist Church
In January [[1874-1877 Events|1876]] there was a strange incident. A warrant was issued in [[Oxley|Oxley]] for Ned for horse stealing of a chestnut mare and foal. The horses were owned by Ned's uncle John Quinn. Later [[Woodward|Michael Woodward]] was arrested for the same offence. He had been working as a farm help for Mrs Kelly.
In 1877 while Ned was 'working' with his uncles and having problems with [[Whitty|Whitty]], police including Assistant Commissioner [[Nicolson|Nicolson]] started visiting Mrs Kelly's looking for Ned. This is his description of Mrs Kelly's home:
<blockquote>'I visited the notorious Mrs Kelly's on the road from hence to Benalla. She lived on a piece of cleared and partly cultivated land on the road-side, in an old wooden hut, with a large bark roof. The dwelling was divided into five apartments by partitions of blanketing, rags, &c. There were no men in the house, only children and two girls of about fourteen years of age, said to be her daughters. They all appeared to be existing in poverty and squalor.' ([[Royal Commission report day 4 page 8|RC1024]])
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By late 1877 the police persecution of all my friends was out of control. My husband poor George [[George King|King]] had to take himself off to save himself. I was pregnant with his dear daughter [[Alice (King) Kelly|Alice]]
'''Fitzpatrick Incident [[15-04-78 Fitzgerald incident|15/4/1878]]''' Const Fitzpatrick came to the [[Kelly Home|Kelly home]] at .. to arrest [[Dan Kelly|Dan Kelly]]. After talking to Kate and I for some time Dan arrived back home and asked Const [[Fitzpatrick|Fitzpatrick]] if he could have dinner before they left home. It is suggested by some writers that during this time there may have been some disturbance, perhaps Fitzpatrick had made some advances towards [[Kate Kelly|Kate]]. There is also a suggestion that Mrs Kelly used a shovel. See also ([[Royal Commission report day 36 page 4|RC12822]])
While Ned Kelly denied being at home it is suggested by most authorities that he came in at about this time and fired a revolver at Fitzpatrick and hit him in the wrist. Soon after Fitzpatrick left and reported that he had been shot by the Kellys.
See also ([[The Argus at KellyGang 22/4/1878|Argus22/4/78]]) [[[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (11)|JJK]]) and ([[The True of Bushrangers Chapter 4 page 1|CHC]])
Apart from Dan and [[Ned Kelly|Ned]] and their younger brothers and sister and I, [[William Williamson, Brickey|Brckey Williamson]], the next door neighbour was present. Fitzpatrick also said that my [[Margaret Skillion|Maggie]]'s husband Bill [[William Skillion|Skillion]], was present. Some writers suggest that Bill had been mistaken for [[Joe Byrne|Joe Byrne]]. The '''[[KellyGang|KellyGang]]''' set out my side of these events in the Cameron [[Cameron Letter|letter]].
Sgt [[Steele|Steele]] and Const [[Strahan|Strahan]] arrested me with my baby Alice on the morning of 17/4/1881. Jimmy [[Jimmy Quinn|Quinn]] with me. ([[Royal Commission report day 23 page 1|RC8821]])([[The Argus at KellyGang 18/4/1878|Argus18/4/78]])
I was taken from my beloved home. My selection, which I had had for about 5 years was mortgaged to the Land Credit Bank. ([[The Argus at KellyGang 16/10/1880|Argus16/10/80]]) ([[The Argus at KellyGang 19/10/1880 (2)|Argus19/10/80]])
My daughter and I were taken to [[Benalla Court|Benalla]] on the 17th. From there we were taken to [[Beechworth Gaol|Beechworth Goal]] then back to Benalla for their committal on 17 May.[ [[17/4-4/10/78 Events|25/4/1878]] ??? I was in Court in Benalla on charge of aiding and abetting Ned Kelly.]
On [[ev78-10--4Mansfield Murders|9 October 1878]], with Sir [[Redmond Barry|Redmond]] Barry as the judge, Skillion, Williamson and I were found guilty of attempted murder and on 12/10/1878, I was sentenced to 3 years and Skillion and Williamson 6 years hard labour. I was 46. ([[Royal Commission report Appendix 10|RCApp10]]) ([[The Argus at KellyGang 14/10/1878|Argus14/10/78]]) ([[The Argus at KellyGang 30/10/1878 (5)|Argus30/10/78]]) ([[The Argus at KellyGang 8/8/1880|Argus10/8/80]])
Const [[McIntyre|McIntrye]] saw Const [[Fitzpatrick|Fitzpatrick]] give his evidence. ([[The Age (33)|Age9/8/1880]])
Soon after the trial I was moved to the [[Melbourne Gaol|Melbourne]] Gaol and stayed there through the rest of the troubles
Ned [[Ned Kelly|Kelly]] expressed his feelings about all of this in the Cameron [[Cameron Letter|Letter]]. My son said:
' .. This sort of cruelty and disgraceful conduct to my brothers and sisters who had no protection coupled with the conviction of my Mother and those innocent men certainly made my blood boil as I don't think there is a man born could have the patience to suffer what I did....'
Mr [[Wyatt|Wyatt]] thinks that [[Wild Wright|Wild Wright]] and one of the Quinns could have assisted the police at about this time; offering to bring the '''KellyGang''' in if the Government would liberate me. ([[Royal Commission report day 12 page 2|RC2265]])
[[Margaret Skillion|Maggie]] went to see me in [[Pentridge|Pentridge]]. She took her youngest [[Alice (King) Kelly|sister]] home. ([[The Argus at KellyGang 3/6/1879|Argus3/6/79]])
'''In Melbourne Gaol''' Life in the old Melbourne Gaol was no fun. I was away from my children and the only news I got was that the boys were having fun going from bad to worse. My poor girls had to struggle on by themselves with the world against them.
After a time I [[Margaret Skillion|Maggie]] came down [[Pentridge|Pentridge]] and took dear [[Alice (King) Kelly|Alice]] home. Gaol was no place for a little girl. ([[Alexandra and Yea Standard, Gobur, Thornton and Acheron Express at KellyGang 7/6/1879|Alexandra7/6/1879]])
As for this place; the constant druggery of the wash room was one of my few consolations
'''After the Glenrowan Siege June-November 1880''' Rev [[Melbourne Gaol|Aylward]] from the cathedral came to see me with the dreadful news of [[ev80-06-28Glenrowan|Glenrowan]]. For one moment please stop and imagine how a mother must feel when she hears that her son [[Dan Kelly|Dan]] was dead, that [[Ned Kelly|Ned]] was in the hands of the law in prison in this terrible place, that their brave friends [[Joe Byrne|Joe Byrne]] and [[Steve Hart|Steve Hart]] are also dead and that all is lost ([[Herald (11)|Argus30/6/80]])
The news that dear Ned was in a cell just a few feet away in the men's part of this Gaol was almost intolerable. They had shot at him and just managed to keep him alive for their pleasure. It did not help that I had dreamt that the police would win the battle at Glenrowan. I was taken to see Ned. ([[Herald (10)|Herald30/6/80]]) ([[Ovens and Murray Advertiser (3)|OMA1/7/80]])
Some time later Mr [[Melbourne Gaol|Castieau]], the Governor of the Gaol let me see Ned for half an hour. ([[Melbourne Daily Telegraph (2)|MDTel1/7/80]])
This was before they took my dear Ned up to Beechworth for the beginning of his [[Ned Kellys Trial|committal]].
Hear what they tried to do to my home while I was in Gaol. The Judge called it justice. ([[The Age (48)|Age16/10/1880]])
I visited my son, Ned Kelly, the day before they killed him ([[The Age (60)|Age11/11/80]])
'''My return home''' The Royal Commissioners came to my place and saw me. What did I look like and what did I have to say. ([[The Argus at KellyGang 16/5/1881 (3)|Argus16/5/81]])
'''Hannah Barnett''' used to visit me and we would have a cup of tea and a gossip. We were both Irish. Hannah had been married to Christian Asquith when he was a stockman on [[Hedi|Hedi]] and later she married John Barnett who had a farm down Thirteen Mile Creek, near [[Greta|Hansonville]].
In 1911 the jounalist BW Cookson visited me. He described me and my home. ([[Cookson, 27_08_1911_3|BWC]]) He also refered to my grandchildren. I was looking after a number of them, particularly [[Kate Kelly|Kate]]'s at the time. By then [[Margaret Skillion|Maggie]] and Kate had died. ([[Cookson, 28_08_1911_1|BWC]]) ([[Cookson, 29_08_1911_1|BWC]])
'''What happened to Mrs Kelly's family'''
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