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== Tom Lloyd jnr ==
== Importance of Thomas Peter Lloyd ==
'''A relation of the Kellys and one of the Greta Mob. Many said I was the fifth member of the KellyGang'''
'''Links to the KellyGang''' '''below''' , [[#ey|Early Years]] , [[#1st|First run in with the law]] , [[#fitz|Fitzpatrick Incident]], [[#gold|Gold Mining]] , [[#mm|Mansfield Murders]], [[#en|Escape North]], [[#er|Euroa Robbery]] , [[#mass|Mass arrest of sympathizers]] , [[#JR|Jerilderie Robbery]] ''',''' [[#later|Later in 1879]] , [[#e1880|Early in 1880]] , [[#das|Death of Aaron Sherritt]] , [[#glf|Glenrowan Siege]] , [[#as|After the Siege]] , Ned Kelly's Trial , Royal Commission , Family ,
== Family ==
'''parents [[Jack Lloyd snr|Jack Lloyd]] Snr Catherine Quinn brothers''' [[Jack Lloyd Jnr|John Lloyd Jnr]] Paddy '''sisters''' ... '''wife''' [[Margaret Skillion|Maggie]] ''',''' [[Richard Hart (2)|Rachel Hart]] '''children''' Anne (b1881), Edward (Ned) (b1882), Catherine (b1883), John (b1885), Thomas (b1886), Mary (b1887), Maude (b1888), Lilian (b1890), Rose (b1891), Mildred (b1892), Albert 'Sonny' (b1894) '''uncles''' ... '''aunts''' [[Mrs Ellen Kelly|Ellen Kelly]] Photograph
== Links to the KellyGang ==
'''Early years''' '''First run ins with the law''' Did they try and get the family on a trumpted up charge. Something to do with a hide. I gave evidence ([[The North Eastern Ensign at KellyGang 7/1/1873|Ensign7/1/1873]])
In about 1877 people started to see my brother [[Jack Lloyd Jnr|John]] riding around the country with [[Ned Kelly|Ned Kelly]] and his mates and some started to call us the [[Greta|Greta]] Mob. Some even said that we went on trips around the country with Ned Kelly when he went off pinching mobs of [[Horse and Cattle stealing|horses and cattle]]. Well we may have helped our cousins and had a bit of fun.
In September [[1874-1877 Events|1877]] my brother [[Jack Lloyd Jnr|Jack]] and I and [[Dan Kelly|Dan Kelly]] got into trouble in Winton after a prank. We hid on the Kelly property for a few weeks. Eventually we gave ourselves up and were charged with wilfully damaging the property of [[David Goodman|David Goodman]], a [[Hawkers People|hawker]] who owned a shop in [[Winton|Winton]]. Const [[Fitzpatrick|Fitzpatrick]] said that we gave ourselves up to him. ([[Royal Commission report day 36 page 6|RC12871]])
On 19 October 1877 at our trial we each received 3 months in [[Beechworth Gaol|Beechworth Goal]] and ordered to pay £2 10 shillings in damages. I was also sentenced to another 3 months for assaulting Mrs Goodman. ([[Royal Commission report Appendix 10|RCApp10]])
The incident started with Dan Kelly delivering some meat to Mrs Goodman and picking up some groceries.. We arrived after closing time and the Goodmans would not open up. They were being silly so we encouraged them to open up. There was a bit of a disagreement, but I must say that while Mr Goodman was the main witness against us, he later was sentenced to 4 months for his evidence.
Later I was convicted in Beechworth on 28/2/1878 of indecent assault against Mrs Goodman and recieved a further 3 months
. '''Fitzpatrick Incident 15/04/[[15-04-78 Fitzgerald incident|1878]]''' I lived near '''Quarry Hill''', near Greta and next to [[Jacob Wilson|Jacob Wilson]].([[Royal Commission report day 11 page 8|RC2112]]) ([[Royal Commission report day 16 page 9|RC4410]])
You can get there by taking Kilfera road, the main surveyed road to Greta, and then there is a cleared track the last five miles to my house. ([[Royal Commission report day 16 page 14|RC4581]])
I was mentioned by the '''KellyGang''' in the Cameron [[Cameron Letter|letter]]. They said that Const [[Strahan|Strahan]] was up on the River Murray getting evidence against Dan [[Dan Kelly|Kelly,]] brother [[Jack Lloyd Jnr|Jack]] and me when Const [[Fitzpatrick|Fitzpatrick]] came to the [[Kelly Home|Kelly home]] to arrest Dan.
Mrs [[Margaret Skillion|Skillion]] was left to look after the whole Kelly family. We all had a duty to [[Mrs Ellen Kelly|Mrs Kelly]] to help keep the family together. They had moved to Maggie's place.
'''Gold mining and whiskey making at Bullock Creek''' I went off to Bullock Creek with the '''[[KellyGang|KellyGang]]''' where I stayed until about October. However I went off with them on many of their trips and could in some ways be seen as a fifth member. Ned Kelly always made sure that I was kept out of sight when they appeared in public so that I could go into town and do things for them '''Stringybark CreekMurders 26/10/1878''' I was not there at the time of the murders . '''Escape north''' I met the '''[[KellyGang|KellyGang]]''' on the night of the murders in the Wombat Ranges and they told me what happened in their hut. I kept guard till morning while they were having a few hours' sleep. We worked out that it might be best if they went over the boarder into New South Wales and held up the bank at [[Howlong (2)|Howlong]]. ([[Royal Commission report day 10 page 10|RC1867]]) See also ([[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (22)|JJK]])
Const [[Const W Duross|Duross]] saw me and one of the Ryan boys when we went to [[Violet Town|Violet Town]]. Hear how he followed me around like a puppy dog.
We apparently arrived in town about "six o'clock one evening; their names were told to me by Const [[Gascoigne|Gascoigne]], who was then in [[Violet Town|Violet Town]] with me.
I followed them up the township. I saw them putting their horses in the stables of the hotel. I went in after them, where they were in the sitting room, and commenced reading the paper. They were sitting opposite me, and I do not think they knew me at this time, until the coachdriver, who was driving the coach between [[Shepparton|Shepparton]] and Violet Town, came in-he spoke to me and called me by name. I did not answer, did not want to make myself known to the men, and they commenced laughing; so the coachdriver said, "I have seen a party of your police down on the road to Shepparton, who are camped close to the road." They were laughing over this. I sent a telegram to Mr. Sadleir in Benalla about the whole affair, and he returned one to me, told me to pay strict attention to them and watch which direction they went. I did so, and sent Gascoigne to watch them a certain distance out of the township, and he watched them and said they went in the direction of Benalla. I afterwards received a telegram from Benalla, saying they were seen there at the proper time." ([[Royal Commission report day 15 page 6|RC3588]])
'''Euroa Robbery 10/12/1878''' It is almost certain that I helped the boys at Faithful's creek '''Mass arrest of the sympathizers''' They did not get me
In March I was charged with assaulting police ([[The Ovens and Murray Advertiser 27/2/1879|OMA27/2/1879]]) ([[The Argus at KellyGang 12/3/1879|Argus12/3/79]]) ([[The Argus at KellyGang 13/3/1879|Argus13/3/79]]) ([[The Ovens and Murray Advertiser 13/3/1879|OMA13/3/79]])
'''Jerilderie Robbery 10/2/[[events79-2_4Jerilderie Robbery|1879]]''' I acted as the scout for the '''KellyGang''' as they crossed the River [[Murray River at Kellygang|Murray]] on their way to Jerilderie at [[Burramine|Burramine]].
I had a trial crossing; what happened ([[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (37)|JJK]])
They used the publican Mr Burke's punt
On 28/2/[[events79-2_4Jerilderie Robbery|1879]] the police got me. I was charged in Beechworth with indecent assault and received 3 months.([[The Ovens and Murray Advertiser 13/3/1879|OMA13/3/79]]) (RC [[Royal Commission report Appendix 10|App 10]])
'''Later in 1879''' Some thought that I might have killed [[Jack Lloyd Jnr|John Lloyd]] when he died at Mrs O'Brien's Hotel in [[Greta|Greta]] in April 1879.([[The Argus at KellyGang 30/4/1879|Argus30/4/79]])
I was aquitted of manslaughter. Patrick and Dennis [[McAuliffe|McAuliffe]] were with me at the time.
In late June, during a search party with Consts [[Const Faulkiner|Faulkiner]] and other police they found three or four saddles hanging up at a place near my home that had been recently used. They noticed they had surcingles on made by a saddler at Wangaratta. The person who occupied the place was a man with one hand, a bachelor, which clearly showed that he had not a use for four saddles. When the '''KellyGang''' was captured, and the horses and saddles brought to Benalla, Faulkiner identified those saddles as the ones they had seen on their visit.([[Royal Commission report day 18 page 2|RC5327]])see also ([[Royal Commission report day 18 page 2|RC5312]])
See also ([[The Last of the Bushrangers Chapter 8 page 8|FH]])
I, with [[Margaret Skillion|Maggie Skillion]]. bought things for the boys including cartridges in Melbourne. ([[The Argus at KellyGang 21/6/1879|Argus21/6/79]]) see also ([[The Argus at KellyGang 20/6/1879|Argus20/6/79]]) ([[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (53)|JJK]])
Was I involved in making the [[Kelly's Armour|armour]] with [[Dan Kelly|Dan Kelly]]? ([[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (52)|JJK]])
On [[events 1879-08/ 1879-10|28/9/79]] I was seen near Benalla with the '''KellyGang''' by a police spy, Patrick [[Patrick Quinn|Quinn]]. ([[Royal Commission report day 1 page 8|RC63]])
'''Early in 1880''' I was spotted at Mrs [[Mrs Margaret Byrne|Byrne]]'s home late in May 1880 ([[Royal Commission report day 3 page 10|RC801]])
About this time [[Jacob Wilson|Jacob Wilson]] told the police that the '''KellyGang''' visited my place. ([[Royal Commission report day 11 page 8|RC2110]])
I lived next to Patterson's paddock where Wilson found the saddles. We were on the edge of [[Kilfera|Kilefra]].
Wilson went on to tell the Royal Commission that he saw a lot of horses at my place and that he even saw [[Dan Kelly|Dan Kelly]] here. ([[Royal Commission report day 16 page 10|RC4479]])
Wilson watched my place from 3rd of April until the 14th of May. I got sick of it. One of the dogs went after him and we put him up a cherry tree. If we had only found him. ([[Royal Commission report day 16 page 11|RC4493]])
A short time before the Glenrowan siege a party friends and I crossed the line just at Glenrowan, on horseback, got up mounted and dressed and equipped as if they were starting for the shearing. Four of our group (there were about six of us) were stopped at Yarrawonga punt by the police.([[Royal Commission report day 3 page 8|RC774]])
'''Death of Aaron Sherritt 26/6/1880''' I was not there. We were getting ready for Glenrowan '''Glenrowan Siege 28/6/1880''' It is likely that I turned up at the start of the [[ev80-06-28Glenrowan|siege]] with [[Ned Kelly|Ned Kelly]] and Steve Hart on the evening of 26/6/1880
We had our mates organised down the railway track where the rails were taken up. Ned came down and gave the boys the bad news; the blody police had stopped at Glenrowan. Things were very bad.
'''After the Siege''' I was at the funeral for Dan and Steve ([[Herald (11)|Herald30/6/80]])
In late July 1880 I went down to Melbourne with [[Margaret Skillion|Maggie]] Skillion to try and arrange for [[Ned Kelly|Ned Kelly]]'s defence. ([[The Argus at KellyGang 2/8/1880 (2)|Argus2/8/80]])
I attended the start of Ned Kelly's committal with Maggie. ([[The Age (31)|Age9/8/1880]]) ([[Herald at KellyGang - 8/8/1880|Herald8/8/80]]) ([[The Argus at KellyGang 9/8/1880|Argus9/8/80)]]
Maggie [[Margaret Skillion|Skillion]], [[Gaunson, David|David Gaunson]] and I stayed at the '''Hibernian''' during Ned Kelly's committal hearing. ([[The Argus (54)|Argus7/8/80]])
'''Later'''
I and Dennis [[McAuliffe|McAuliffe]] went out voluntarily and helped Const [[Const Armstrong|Armstrong]] when he was stationed at Glenrowan, and looked for a horse down in the bush after [[Ned Kelly|Kelly]]'s execution. ([[Royal Commission report day 32 page 7|RC12181]])
Const Robert [[Const Robert Graham|Graham]] reported on 26th April 1881 about the sympathizers of the '''KellyGang'''. -"I beg to report for the information of the superintendent that a number of them were here at [[Greta|Greta]] yesterday, drinking, viz.: -Jack [[Jack Quinn Jnr|Quinn]], Tom Lloyd, jun, Paddy [[McAuliffe|McAuliffe]], Tom McAuliffe, John [[Jack McMonigal|McMonigal]], and Jack [[Nolan|Nolan]]; and from their manner I am led to believe that another outbreak among them is imminent. Jack Quinn is very anxious to find out who it was that got the sympathizers arrested in 1879. They all appear to have a great dislike to Pat [[Patrick Quinn|Quinn]], and speak of him as the black tracker."([[Royal Commission report day 25 page 15|RC9870]]) see also ([[Royal Commission report day 13 page 14|RC2970]])
I died at Greta on [[ev82-00---Story Continues|27/8/1927]].
'''What happened to Tom Lloyd's family'''
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