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== The Royal Commission evidence for 4/5/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 4/5/1881|day 15]])
'''Constable [[Const W Duross|Duross]]''' '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc3989">[[#rc3989|3989]]</span> Will you look at this plan. [[Jones' Glenrowan Inn|—]][ ''The witness did so''.] The tree was about here, was it not— [''pointing to the plan'']?— Yes.
<span id="rc3990">[[#rc3990|3990]]</span> How far from the tree to the front door—you have called it 60 yards—can you say it was anything like 60 yards?— I could not say.
<span id="rc3991">[[#rc3991|3991]]</span> I have measured it, and know it was under 30 yards. Which end did the priest go round?— I think the little end, at the north.
<span id="rc3992">[[#rc3992|3992]]</span> Did you see him go in?— I think I did—I saw him coming out of the little gate.
<span id="rc3993">[[#rc3993|3993]]</span> Was that after he had gone into the house?— That was after.
<span id="rc3994">[[#rc3994|3994]]</span> When he approached the house, did you not see the police run in after him, on all sides, some trying to stop him?— Armstrong was singing out to him.
<span id="rc3995">[[#rc3995|3995]]</span> Did you notice him making the sign of the cross on his face?— I noticed him hold up his hands.
<span id="rc3996">[[#rc3996|3996]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Did you see Mr. [[O'Connor|O'Connor]] often during that day?— Yes.
<span id="rc3997">[[#rc3997|3997]]</span> Where was he?— I saw him along with Mr. Sadleir, and I saw him giving the black trackers lunch.
<span id="rc3998">[[#rc3998|3998]]</span> Where were they then?— The north side.
3999 They did not leave their positions to get lunch?— Yes, they did.
<span id="rc4000">[[#rc4000|4000]]</span> Did they get under shelter?— They were running behind trees.
<span id="rc4001">[[#rc4001|4001]]</span> Where were they getting lunch?— There was plenty of lunch at the station.
<span id="rc4002">[[#rc4002|4002]]</span> Did they get it there?— Either them or Mr. O'Connor.
4003 Did you get your lunch at the station?— Yes.
<span id="rc4004">[[#rc4004|4004]]</span> There is a little difficulty; you cannot fix the hour of the shooting. The point of the examination is when you discharged this repeating rifle of yours—after the people came out of the house or before. Did you give me to understand that you had shot prior to the coming out of the people. Subsequently you fixed the hour at or about one o'clock . Can you decide on that point?— Yes, because I had fired before Mr. [[Sadleir|Sadleir]] told me.
<span id="rc4005">[[#rc4005|4005]]</span> What time did you get your lunch?— I could not fix the time. I went down to the station and had it.
4006 You felt hungry and went down?— Yes.
<span id="rc4007">[[#rc4007|4007]]</span> Did the men say there was lunch down there?— Yes.
<span id="rc4008">[[#rc4008|4008]]</span> It was a mere matter of time?— It would not take you ten minutes to run down.
4009 Did most of the men go?— I do not know; I saw one or two.
<span id="rc4010">[[#rc4010|4010]]</span> Did you see the black trackers eat their lunch?— I saw Mr. O'Connor distributing it to them.
4011 Where?— At the north side of the hotel.
4012 Were they stationed there?— No.
<span id="rc4013">[[#rc4013|4013]]</span> Did they come together for lunch?— Yes, they came all together for lunch to the north side of the house.
<span id="rc4014">[[#rc4014|4014]]</span> Was Mr. O'Connor moving about and giving orders?— No, I saw him give orders to the trackers.
<span id="rc4015">[[#rc4015|4015]]</span> What was he doing when you saw him first?— Standing under shelter of a tree with Mr. Sadleir at the north side of the house.
<span id="rc4015a">[[#rc4015a|4015a]]</span> Is what you call the north the back of the house?— No, the back I call the west.
<span id="rc4016">[[#rc4016|4016]]</span> Beyond the station, as you go up the line, you call the north?— Yes.
<span id="rc4017">[[#rc4017|4017]]</span> Can you take upon yourself, after this lapse of time, of your own knowledge, to say whether any firearms were discharged by the occupants of the house, the outlaws or any one else, after you came on the scene—discharged from Jones's residence?— Yes, on one occasion. I believe it to be [[John Sherritt Jnr|Jack Sherritt]]; he was standing up near the back of the house, and I got up there, and he said, “Look out, old man, there has just been one come out of the back window.”
4018 Did you see him?— No, I saw something.
<span id="rc4019">[[#rc4019|4019]]</span> He drew your attention to somebody at the window firing a shot?— Yes.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 4/5/1881 ==
''''''
=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 4/5/1881|day 15]])
'''Constable [[Const W Duross|Duross]]''' '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc3989">[[#rc3989|3989]]</span> Will you look at this plan. [[Jones' Glenrowan Inn|—]][ ''The witness did so''.] The tree was about here, was it not— [''pointing to the plan'']?— Yes.
<span id="rc3990">[[#rc3990|3990]]</span> How far from the tree to the front door—you have called it 60 yards—can you say it was anything like 60 yards?— I could not say.
<span id="rc3991">[[#rc3991|3991]]</span> I have measured it, and know it was under 30 yards. Which end did the priest go round?— I think the little end, at the north.
<span id="rc3992">[[#rc3992|3992]]</span> Did you see him go in?— I think I did—I saw him coming out of the little gate.
<span id="rc3993">[[#rc3993|3993]]</span> Was that after he had gone into the house?— That was after.
<span id="rc3994">[[#rc3994|3994]]</span> When he approached the house, did you not see the police run in after him, on all sides, some trying to stop him?— Armstrong was singing out to him.
<span id="rc3995">[[#rc3995|3995]]</span> Did you notice him making the sign of the cross on his face?— I noticed him hold up his hands.
<span id="rc3996">[[#rc3996|3996]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Did you see Mr. [[O'Connor|O'Connor]] often during that day?— Yes.
<span id="rc3997">[[#rc3997|3997]]</span> Where was he?— I saw him along with Mr. Sadleir, and I saw him giving the black trackers lunch.
<span id="rc3998">[[#rc3998|3998]]</span> Where were they then?— The north side.
3999 They did not leave their positions to get lunch?— Yes, they did.
<span id="rc4000">[[#rc4000|4000]]</span> Did they get under shelter?— They were running behind trees.
<span id="rc4001">[[#rc4001|4001]]</span> Where were they getting lunch?— There was plenty of lunch at the station.
<span id="rc4002">[[#rc4002|4002]]</span> Did they get it there?— Either them or Mr. O'Connor.
4003 Did you get your lunch at the station?— Yes.
<span id="rc4004">[[#rc4004|4004]]</span> There is a little difficulty; you cannot fix the hour of the shooting. The point of the examination is when you discharged this repeating rifle of yours—after the people came out of the house or before. Did you give me to understand that you had shot prior to the coming out of the people. Subsequently you fixed the hour at or about one o'clock . Can you decide on that point?— Yes, because I had fired before Mr. [[Sadleir|Sadleir]] told me.
<span id="rc4005">[[#rc4005|4005]]</span> What time did you get your lunch?— I could not fix the time. I went down to the station and had it.
4006 You felt hungry and went down?— Yes.
<span id="rc4007">[[#rc4007|4007]]</span> Did the men say there was lunch down there?— Yes.
<span id="rc4008">[[#rc4008|4008]]</span> It was a mere matter of time?— It would not take you ten minutes to run down.
4009 Did most of the men go?— I do not know; I saw one or two.
<span id="rc4010">[[#rc4010|4010]]</span> Did you see the black trackers eat their lunch?— I saw Mr. O'Connor distributing it to them.
4011 Where?— At the north side of the hotel.
4012 Were they stationed there?— No.
<span id="rc4013">[[#rc4013|4013]]</span> Did they come together for lunch?— Yes, they came all together for lunch to the north side of the house.
<span id="rc4014">[[#rc4014|4014]]</span> Was Mr. O'Connor moving about and giving orders?— No, I saw him give orders to the trackers.
<span id="rc4015">[[#rc4015|4015]]</span> What was he doing when you saw him first?— Standing under shelter of a tree with Mr. Sadleir at the north side of the house.
<span id="rc4015a">[[#rc4015a|4015a]]</span> Is what you call the north the back of the house?— No, the back I call the west.
<span id="rc4016">[[#rc4016|4016]]</span> Beyond the station, as you go up the line, you call the north?— Yes.
<span id="rc4017">[[#rc4017|4017]]</span> Can you take upon yourself, after this lapse of time, of your own knowledge, to say whether any firearms were discharged by the occupants of the house, the outlaws or any one else, after you came on the scene—discharged from Jones's residence?— Yes, on one occasion. I believe it to be [[John Sherritt Jnr|Jack Sherritt]]; he was standing up near the back of the house, and I got up there, and he said, “Look out, old man, there has just been one come out of the back window.”
4018 Did you see him?— No, I saw something.
<span id="rc4019">[[#rc4019|4019]]</span> He drew your attention to somebody at the window firing a shot?— Yes.....
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