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== The Royal Commission evidence for 5/5/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 5/5/1881|day 16]])
'''[[Jacob Wilson|Jacob Wilson]] '''giving evidence''''''
<span id="rc4540">[[#rc4540|4540]]</span> Have you received any remuneration from the Government for keeping Stephens?— Yes; he paid me eight shillings, and he went away. Superintendent [[Sadleir|Sadleir]] asked me in Benalla what he gave, and I told him, and he gave me £1 then. I got £1 8s. for that.
<span id="rc4541">[[#rc4541|4541]]</span> And how much for the hay?— Thirty shillings. They were in my paddock two nights and two days.
<span id="rc4542">[[#rc4542|4542]]</span> Did you bear a good character in the district?— Yes.
<span id="rc4543">[[#rc4543|4543]]</span> Were you ever summoned by the police for any offence?— Never in the colony. I can say before this Commission, I am 29 years in this colony, and there is nothing against my character.
<span id="rc4544">[[#rc4544|4544]]</span> Why did you wish to be examined before this Commission?— I wished to be examined because I suffered greatly, and so that I may get compensation from the Government for my loss.
<span id="rc4545">[[#rc4545|4545]]</span> Were you on a [[Selectors|selection]]?— Yes.
<span id="rc4546">[[#rc4546|4546]]</span> How long?— Five years.
<span id="rc4547">[[#rc4547|4547]]</span> Have you paid the rent?— Yes, every rent.
<span id="rc4548">[[#rc4548|4548]]</span> What has been done with the land now?— Somebody else has got it now.
<span id="rc4549">[[#rc4549|4549]]</span> Has it been re-selected?— No. I owed some money, and I am seven months in Melbourne now. A man named [[Charles De Boos' Seven Creeks hotel|De Boos]] has got it now.
<span id="rc4550">[[#rc4550|4550]]</span> You owed some money on this land?— Yes.
<span id="rc4551">[[#rc4551|4551]]</span> In consequence of those difficulties did you pay your rent?— Yes.
<span id="rc4552">[[#rc4552|4552]]</span> Did you owe some money to a storekeeper?— Yes.
<span id="rc4553">[[#rc4553|4553]]</span> Who was that?— De Boos.
<span id="rc4554">[[#rc4554|4554]]</span> Did De Boos sell your land under the sheriff?— Yes.
<span id="rc4555">[[#rc4555|4555]]</span> Who was the purchaser?— He was himself.
<span id="rc4556">[[#rc4556|4556]]</span> Would it have occurred—would you have been in debt and your land sold if you had been able to remain on it?— No, because I have three big sons, and they have to run away from the district the same as I have. £17 was all the debt I was in.
<span id="rc4557">[[#rc4557|4557]]</span> Did De Boos sell your land for that?— Yes.
<span id="rc4558">[[#rc4558|4558]]</span> How many acres?— Fifty-five acres.
<span id="rc4559">[[#rc4559|4559]]</span> Then it was sold for that?— That sill I was in debt.
<span id="rc4560">[[#rc4560|4560]]</span> What improvements were on it?— There were improvements on it valued by the Crown lands bailiff at £106, and I have another receipt for clearing five acres valued at £20.
<span id="rc4561">[[#rc4561|4561]]</span> Where are your sons now?— I do not know; I have not heard from them since the 17 th October.
<span id="rc4562">[[#rc4562|4562]]</span> They have cleared out?— Yes.
<span id="rc4563">[[#rc4563|4563]]</span> Before that were they living with you?— Yes.
<span id="rc4564">[[#rc4564|4564]]</span> What do you estimate your loss at?— Well, my loss is very great, if I estimate it. I lost my living and I lost my liberty.
<span id="rc4565">[[#rc4565|4565]]</span> Was not there some arrangement made between yourselves and the police to make use of it as a station?— Mr. Sadleir said to me, one time I was there, they were going to put up police stations, and he thought my place might be a suitable place to put a station on; and I said it was the best place they could have, because all the gaps in the dividing ranges coming from Mansfield and into Greta are near there, and it would answer well as the people travel that road mostly.
<span id="rc4566">[[#rc4566|4566]]</span> Who travel that way?— Those outlaws and the horse thieves.
<span id="rc4567">[[#rc4567|4567]]</span> That arrangement came to nothing?— No, it came to nothing; he said he would see what he could do, and that was the last I heard of it.
<span id="rc4568">[[#rc4568|4568]]</span> How long have you been in Melbourne ?— Seven and a half months.
<span id="rc4569">[[#rc4569|4569]]</span> What money have you to live upon?— I came to Melbourne with very little money, £26, when I started from Benalla, but I had to give my son some, and I am indebted a good deal in Melbourne .
<span id="rc4570">[[#rc4570|4570]]</span> What are you doing?— I have just got a situation to go to to-morrow.
<span id="rc4571">[[#rc4571|4571]]</span> Did you get any employment since you came down?— No.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 5/5/1881 ==
''''''
=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 5/5/1881|day 16]])
'''[[Jacob Wilson|Jacob Wilson]] '''giving evidence''''''
<span id="rc4540">[[#rc4540|4540]]</span> Have you received any remuneration from the Government for keeping Stephens?— Yes; he paid me eight shillings, and he went away. Superintendent [[Sadleir|Sadleir]] asked me in Benalla what he gave, and I told him, and he gave me £1 then. I got £1 8s. for that.
<span id="rc4541">[[#rc4541|4541]]</span> And how much for the hay?— Thirty shillings. They were in my paddock two nights and two days.
<span id="rc4542">[[#rc4542|4542]]</span> Did you bear a good character in the district?— Yes.
<span id="rc4543">[[#rc4543|4543]]</span> Were you ever summoned by the police for any offence?— Never in the colony. I can say before this Commission, I am 29 years in this colony, and there is nothing against my character.
<span id="rc4544">[[#rc4544|4544]]</span> Why did you wish to be examined before this Commission?— I wished to be examined because I suffered greatly, and so that I may get compensation from the Government for my loss.
<span id="rc4545">[[#rc4545|4545]]</span> Were you on a [[Selectors|selection]]?— Yes.
<span id="rc4546">[[#rc4546|4546]]</span> How long?— Five years.
<span id="rc4547">[[#rc4547|4547]]</span> Have you paid the rent?— Yes, every rent.
<span id="rc4548">[[#rc4548|4548]]</span> What has been done with the land now?— Somebody else has got it now.
<span id="rc4549">[[#rc4549|4549]]</span> Has it been re-selected?— No. I owed some money, and I am seven months in Melbourne now. A man named [[Charles De Boos' Seven Creeks hotel|De Boos]] has got it now.
<span id="rc4550">[[#rc4550|4550]]</span> You owed some money on this land?— Yes.
<span id="rc4551">[[#rc4551|4551]]</span> In consequence of those difficulties did you pay your rent?— Yes.
<span id="rc4552">[[#rc4552|4552]]</span> Did you owe some money to a storekeeper?— Yes.
<span id="rc4553">[[#rc4553|4553]]</span> Who was that?— De Boos.
<span id="rc4554">[[#rc4554|4554]]</span> Did De Boos sell your land under the sheriff?— Yes.
<span id="rc4555">[[#rc4555|4555]]</span> Who was the purchaser?— He was himself.
<span id="rc4556">[[#rc4556|4556]]</span> Would it have occurred—would you have been in debt and your land sold if you had been able to remain on it?— No, because I have three big sons, and they have to run away from the district the same as I have. £17 was all the debt I was in.
<span id="rc4557">[[#rc4557|4557]]</span> Did De Boos sell your land for that?— Yes.
<span id="rc4558">[[#rc4558|4558]]</span> How many acres?— Fifty-five acres.
<span id="rc4559">[[#rc4559|4559]]</span> Then it was sold for that?— That sill I was in debt.
<span id="rc4560">[[#rc4560|4560]]</span> What improvements were on it?— There were improvements on it valued by the Crown lands bailiff at £106, and I have another receipt for clearing five acres valued at £20.
<span id="rc4561">[[#rc4561|4561]]</span> Where are your sons now?— I do not know; I have not heard from them since the 17 th October.
<span id="rc4562">[[#rc4562|4562]]</span> They have cleared out?— Yes.
<span id="rc4563">[[#rc4563|4563]]</span> Before that were they living with you?— Yes.
<span id="rc4564">[[#rc4564|4564]]</span> What do you estimate your loss at?— Well, my loss is very great, if I estimate it. I lost my living and I lost my liberty.
<span id="rc4565">[[#rc4565|4565]]</span> Was not there some arrangement made between yourselves and the police to make use of it as a station?— Mr. Sadleir said to me, one time I was there, they were going to put up police stations, and he thought my place might be a suitable place to put a station on; and I said it was the best place they could have, because all the gaps in the dividing ranges coming from Mansfield and into Greta are near there, and it would answer well as the people travel that road mostly.
<span id="rc4566">[[#rc4566|4566]]</span> Who travel that way?— Those outlaws and the horse thieves.
<span id="rc4567">[[#rc4567|4567]]</span> That arrangement came to nothing?— No, it came to nothing; he said he would see what he could do, and that was the last I heard of it.
<span id="rc4568">[[#rc4568|4568]]</span> How long have you been in Melbourne ?— Seven and a half months.
<span id="rc4569">[[#rc4569|4569]]</span> What money have you to live upon?— I came to Melbourne with very little money, £26, when I started from Benalla, but I had to give my son some, and I am indebted a good deal in Melbourne .
<span id="rc4570">[[#rc4570|4570]]</span> What are you doing?— I have just got a situation to go to to-morrow.
<span id="rc4571">[[#rc4571|4571]]</span> Did you get any employment since you came down?— No.....
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