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== The Royal Commission evidence for 5/5/1881 ==
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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 5/5/1881|day 16]])
'''[[Jacob Wilson|Jacob Wilson]] '''giving evidence''''''
<span id="rc4606">[[#rc4606|4606]]</span> How often?— Every night he could go out. There was a fellow ploughing at my place, and Stephens was prevented from going out, as we did not want any one to know it.
<span id="rc4607">[[#rc4607|4607]]</span> But every night he could he went out?— Yes.
<span id="rc4608">[[#rc4608|4608]]</span> Had you any crop on your place?— Eight acres of crop.
<span id="rc4609">[[#rc4609|4609]]</span> Did you leave it standing?— Yes.
<span id="rc4610">[[#rc4610|4610]]</span> What crop?— Wheat.
<span id="rc4611">[[#rc4611|4611]]</span> What were your other two sons doing?— I had one son who was a servant with Mr. Bamford, who has been there two and a half years—a farm, near Benalla.
<span id="rc4612">[[#rc4612|4612]]</span> Where is the other?— He was serving with a man named O'Horan, at Glenrowan.
<span id="rc4613">[[#rc4613|4613]]</span> There was only really yourself living on the place?— That was all.
<span id="rc4614">[[#rc4614|4614]]</span> ''By Mr. Sadleir''. —When you informed me about the hobbles, how long were they there before you told me?— I think they were lying there after I was in Melbourne; there were three pairs of hobbles just as they were taken off the horses.
<span id="rc4615">[[#rc4615|4615]]</span> I will read my note of the conversation I had with you. “Wilson called and reported that some month ago his sons found, under the Bald Hills, in a secluded cover, five pairs of hobbles; the ground was beaten about.” The same visit you told about the wires being cut in the fence?— Yes.
<span id="rc4616">[[#rc4616|4616]]</span> I have got it here that your story was that the hobbles had been there a month before you told me?— I do not know how long they were.
<span id="rc4617">[[#rc4617|4617]]</span> Did you find the hobbles there before you came to Melbourne ?— Yes.
<span id="rc4618">[[#rc4618|4618]]</span> How long did you remain in Melbourne ?— Yes.
<span id="rc4619">[[#rc4619|4619]]</span> How long did you find them before you left for Melbourne ?— The same Sunday, Easter Sunday, we found them, and on the Monday I went to Melbourne .
<span id="rc4620">[[#rc4620|4620]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Did you go to Superintendent [[Sadleir|Sadleir]] on your return from Melbourne?— The very minute I came out of the train, on the 3rd of April, there was a note to call at the police station, and I went there at once to see Mr. Sadleir.
<span id="rc4621">[[#rc4621|4621]]</span> Your statement is that you found, on the Easter Sunday, these three wires cut, and the hobbles?— Yes.
<span id="rc4622">[[#rc4622|4622]]</span> They looked quite fresh?— Yes.
<span id="rc4623">[[#rc4623|4623]]</span> You got a letter to go to the barracks?— No, a private message left by Sergeant [[Whelan|Whelan]].
<span id="rc4624">[[#rc4624|4624]]</span> Did you tell him, when you saw him in that interview, that you saw the hobbles about a month before?— No.
<span id="rc4625">[[#rc4625|4625]]</span> ''By Mr. Sadleir''. —That is not what I said. I have got a note of your conversation here, written at the time on that. I find you called on the 3rd April, and it was your opinion that the hobbles were a month lying?— Some of them. There were five pair of hobbles; two pair looked as if they had been a month.
<span id="rc4626">[[#rc4626|4626]]</span> How long were they lying there before you spoke to me about them?— I think only from the Sunday we found them.
<span id="rc4627">[[#rc4627|4627]]</span> How long were they there before you got them?— There were two pairs looked like a month since they ad been worn; but they may have not used them.
<span id="rc4628">[[#rc4628|4628]]</span> When on told me (that was on the 3rd) you found the hobbles on the Sunday before, would it have been any use going to look for tracks?— No.
<span id="rc4629">[[#rc4629|4629]]</span> Would it have been of the slightest use?— No.
<span id="rc4630">[[#rc4630|4630]]</span> Or to go expecting to find the Kellys ?— No. I only gave you information for you to find, that they came there.
<span id="rc4631">[[#rc4631|4631]]</span> While you were in the cherry-tree how many men rushed by?— I only saw two men go by, whom I am confident were Dan Kelly and young Tom Lloyd ; but I heard plenty on the other side of me.
<span id="rc4632">[[#rc4632|4632]]</span> Were they the only two men that rushed after you?— There were a lot rushed after me, but I did not see them.
<span id="rc4633">[[#rc4633|4633]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Did you recognize any other voice in that party?— No.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 5/5/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 5/5/1881|day 16]])
'''[[Jacob Wilson|Jacob Wilson]] '''giving evidence''''''
<span id="rc4606">[[#rc4606|4606]]</span> How often?— Every night he could go out. There was a fellow ploughing at my place, and Stephens was prevented from going out, as we did not want any one to know it.
<span id="rc4607">[[#rc4607|4607]]</span> But every night he could he went out?— Yes.
<span id="rc4608">[[#rc4608|4608]]</span> Had you any crop on your place?— Eight acres of crop.
<span id="rc4609">[[#rc4609|4609]]</span> Did you leave it standing?— Yes.
<span id="rc4610">[[#rc4610|4610]]</span> What crop?— Wheat.
<span id="rc4611">[[#rc4611|4611]]</span> What were your other two sons doing?— I had one son who was a servant with Mr. Bamford, who has been there two and a half years—a farm, near Benalla.
<span id="rc4612">[[#rc4612|4612]]</span> Where is the other?— He was serving with a man named O'Horan, at Glenrowan.
<span id="rc4613">[[#rc4613|4613]]</span> There was only really yourself living on the place?— That was all.
<span id="rc4614">[[#rc4614|4614]]</span> ''By Mr. Sadleir''. —When you informed me about the hobbles, how long were they there before you told me?— I think they were lying there after I was in Melbourne; there were three pairs of hobbles just as they were taken off the horses.
<span id="rc4615">[[#rc4615|4615]]</span> I will read my note of the conversation I had with you. “Wilson called and reported that some month ago his sons found, under the Bald Hills, in a secluded cover, five pairs of hobbles; the ground was beaten about.” The same visit you told about the wires being cut in the fence?— Yes.
<span id="rc4616">[[#rc4616|4616]]</span> I have got it here that your story was that the hobbles had been there a month before you told me?— I do not know how long they were.
<span id="rc4617">[[#rc4617|4617]]</span> Did you find the hobbles there before you came to Melbourne ?— Yes.
<span id="rc4618">[[#rc4618|4618]]</span> How long did you remain in Melbourne ?— Yes.
<span id="rc4619">[[#rc4619|4619]]</span> How long did you find them before you left for Melbourne ?— The same Sunday, Easter Sunday, we found them, and on the Monday I went to Melbourne .
<span id="rc4620">[[#rc4620|4620]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Did you go to Superintendent [[Sadleir|Sadleir]] on your return from Melbourne?— The very minute I came out of the train, on the 3rd of April, there was a note to call at the police station, and I went there at once to see Mr. Sadleir.
<span id="rc4621">[[#rc4621|4621]]</span> Your statement is that you found, on the Easter Sunday, these three wires cut, and the hobbles?— Yes.
<span id="rc4622">[[#rc4622|4622]]</span> They looked quite fresh?— Yes.
<span id="rc4623">[[#rc4623|4623]]</span> You got a letter to go to the barracks?— No, a private message left by Sergeant [[Whelan|Whelan]].
<span id="rc4624">[[#rc4624|4624]]</span> Did you tell him, when you saw him in that interview, that you saw the hobbles about a month before?— No.
<span id="rc4625">[[#rc4625|4625]]</span> ''By Mr. Sadleir''. —That is not what I said. I have got a note of your conversation here, written at the time on that. I find you called on the 3rd April, and it was your opinion that the hobbles were a month lying?— Some of them. There were five pair of hobbles; two pair looked as if they had been a month.
<span id="rc4626">[[#rc4626|4626]]</span> How long were they lying there before you spoke to me about them?— I think only from the Sunday we found them.
<span id="rc4627">[[#rc4627|4627]]</span> How long were they there before you got them?— There were two pairs looked like a month since they ad been worn; but they may have not used them.
<span id="rc4628">[[#rc4628|4628]]</span> When on told me (that was on the 3rd) you found the hobbles on the Sunday before, would it have been any use going to look for tracks?— No.
<span id="rc4629">[[#rc4629|4629]]</span> Would it have been of the slightest use?— No.
<span id="rc4630">[[#rc4630|4630]]</span> Or to go expecting to find the Kellys ?— No. I only gave you information for you to find, that they came there.
<span id="rc4631">[[#rc4631|4631]]</span> While you were in the cherry-tree how many men rushed by?— I only saw two men go by, whom I am confident were Dan Kelly and young Tom Lloyd ; but I heard plenty on the other side of me.
<span id="rc4632">[[#rc4632|4632]]</span> Were they the only two men that rushed after you?— There were a lot rushed after me, but I did not see them.
<span id="rc4633">[[#rc4633|4633]]</span> ''By the Commission''. —Did you recognize any other voice in that party?— No.....
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