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== The Royal Commission evidence for 14/5/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 14/5/1881|day 20]])
'''Const [[Const William Canny|Canny]] giving evidence'''
<span id="rc7402">[[#rc7402|7402]]</span> As late as twelve?— Eleven or twelve; I could not be positive as to time.
<span id="rc7403">[[#rc7403|7403]]</span> Did you see Mr. [[O'Connor|O'Connor]] giving any orders between the time Mr. Hare left and those men coming out?— No, not to the police. I received no orders.
<span id="rc7404">[[#rc7404|7404]]</span> Did you see him at all?— Yes; he was in the drain at the time
<span id="rc7405">[[#rc7405|7405]]</span> What distance from you?— Ten or fifteen yards, I should think
<span id="rc7406">[[#rc7406|7406]]</span> Could he not give an order without your hearing?— No; I must have heard him.
<span id="rc7407">[[#rc7407|7407]]</span> Where next did you see Mr. O'Connor—did you say you saw him when the men were let out?— I saw him when the men were let out; he was with Mr. Sadleir then on this side of the house.
<span id="rc7408">[[#rc7408|7408]]</span> Had he passed you in the drain?— I do not know which way he went. I think Mr. Sadleir sent a man for him to say he wanted him.
<span id="rc7409">[[#rc7409|7409]]</span> Where did he meet Mr. [[Sadleir|Sadleir]]?— I think on the north side. I beg your pardon, I believe Mr. Sadleir went to Mr. O'Connor first in the drain. I saw him go to him. Then Mr. Sadleir went to where Constable [[Gascoigne|Gascoigne]] was, and I could not see where he went then.
<span id="rc7410">[[#rc7410|7410]]</span> Was Mr. O'Connor with him when he went round to see Gascoigne?— No
<span id="rc7411">[[#rc7411|7411]]</span> Was Gascoigne further on the Benalla side; Yes, he was on the Benalla side when Mr. Sadleir arrived.
<span id="rc7412">[[#rc7412|7412]]</span> Did you receive any orders at all from Mr. O'Connor during the day?— No.
<span id="rc7413">[[#rc7413|7413]]</span> Did you act under his orders at all?— No? I took up the best position I could. After Mr. Hare was wounded I saw no one to give orders.
<span id="rc7414">[[#rc7414|7414]]</span> Did you see Mr. O'Connor after the interview with Mr. Sadleir; what time would that interview be?— I could not say the time exactly; about eight or nine, perhaps.
<span id="rc7415">[[#rc7415|7415]]</span> Did you see him after the Kellys' prisoners were let out of the house?— Yes, several times.
<span id="rc7416">[[#rc7416|7416]]</span> Where was he?— On the Wangaratta side of Jones's hotel.
<span id="rc7417">[[#rc7417|7417]]</span> How far away?— About 60 yards, I should think.
<span id="rc7418">[[#rc7418|7418]]</span> Was he taking an,, active part in the fight?— Oh yes, at that time.
<span id="rc7419">[[#rc7419|7419]]</span> Was [[SConst John Kelly|Senior-Constable Kelly]] on the ground?— Yes, he was there.
<span id="rc7420">[[#rc7420|7420]]</span> Did he give any orders?— I received none from him.
<span id="rc7421">[[#rc7421|7421]]</span> Was he considered by the men as the one who should give orders?— Yes, I considered so.
<span id="rc7422">[[#rc7422|7422]]</span> You all looked upon him as your superior officer when Mr. Hare was away?— Yes.
<span id="rc7423">[[#rc7423|7423]]</span> ''By Mr. Sadleir''— Was that after I arrived?— I mean before you arrived.
<span id="rc7424">[[#rc7424|7424]]</span> ''By the Commission''— Where was Mr. Sadleir during this time—after he arrived?— He first went to the other side of the house, where Gascoigne was, and I could not say where after. I suppose he must have gone round the house after that.
<span id="rc7425">[[#rc7425|7425]]</span> Where did you next see him?— Here, at the north side of the hotel
<span id="rc7426">[[#rc7426|7426]]</span> Was he near the hotel?— Yes, he was within about 50 or 60 yards of the hotel, at this end.
<span id="rc7427">[[#rc7427|7427]]</span> Did you consider that the [[KellyGang|Kellys]] were kept much longer in the house than they were needed to be; would you have been willing to rush the house?— Yes; if we had orders, I would have made one.
<span id="rc7428">[[#rc7428|7428]]</span> You did not propose it to your officer?— No.
<span id="rc7429">[[#rc7429|7429]]</span> Do you know that a proposal of that sort was made?— I heard so. I never heard it made.
<span id="rc7430">[[#rc7430|7430]]</span> Did you remain in that one position all day?— Till the prisoners came out, and then I went out to them, to where Mr. Sadleir was, on the north side.
<span id="rc7431">[[#rc7431|7431]]</span> Was it far from where Kelly was caught that you saw Mr. Sadleir?— Just about the same place. I was not there when Kelly was captured. I know whereabouts it is.
<span id="rc7432">[[#rc7432|7432]]</span> Was Mr. O'Connor with Mr. Sadleir then?— When the prisoners came out, I think he was.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 14/5/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 14/5/1881|day 20]])
'''Const [[Const William Canny|Canny]] giving evidence'''
<span id="rc7402">[[#rc7402|7402]]</span> As late as twelve?— Eleven or twelve; I could not be positive as to time.
<span id="rc7403">[[#rc7403|7403]]</span> Did you see Mr. [[O'Connor|O'Connor]] giving any orders between the time Mr. Hare left and those men coming out?— No, not to the police. I received no orders.
<span id="rc7404">[[#rc7404|7404]]</span> Did you see him at all?— Yes; he was in the drain at the time
<span id="rc7405">[[#rc7405|7405]]</span> What distance from you?— Ten or fifteen yards, I should think
<span id="rc7406">[[#rc7406|7406]]</span> Could he not give an order without your hearing?— No; I must have heard him.
<span id="rc7407">[[#rc7407|7407]]</span> Where next did you see Mr. O'Connor—did you say you saw him when the men were let out?— I saw him when the men were let out; he was with Mr. Sadleir then on this side of the house.
<span id="rc7408">[[#rc7408|7408]]</span> Had he passed you in the drain?— I do not know which way he went. I think Mr. Sadleir sent a man for him to say he wanted him.
<span id="rc7409">[[#rc7409|7409]]</span> Where did he meet Mr. [[Sadleir|Sadleir]]?— I think on the north side. I beg your pardon, I believe Mr. Sadleir went to Mr. O'Connor first in the drain. I saw him go to him. Then Mr. Sadleir went to where Constable [[Gascoigne|Gascoigne]] was, and I could not see where he went then.
<span id="rc7410">[[#rc7410|7410]]</span> Was Mr. O'Connor with him when he went round to see Gascoigne?— No
<span id="rc7411">[[#rc7411|7411]]</span> Was Gascoigne further on the Benalla side; Yes, he was on the Benalla side when Mr. Sadleir arrived.
<span id="rc7412">[[#rc7412|7412]]</span> Did you receive any orders at all from Mr. O'Connor during the day?— No.
<span id="rc7413">[[#rc7413|7413]]</span> Did you act under his orders at all?— No? I took up the best position I could. After Mr. Hare was wounded I saw no one to give orders.
<span id="rc7414">[[#rc7414|7414]]</span> Did you see Mr. O'Connor after the interview with Mr. Sadleir; what time would that interview be?— I could not say the time exactly; about eight or nine, perhaps.
<span id="rc7415">[[#rc7415|7415]]</span> Did you see him after the Kellys' prisoners were let out of the house?— Yes, several times.
<span id="rc7416">[[#rc7416|7416]]</span> Where was he?— On the Wangaratta side of Jones's hotel.
<span id="rc7417">[[#rc7417|7417]]</span> How far away?— About 60 yards, I should think.
<span id="rc7418">[[#rc7418|7418]]</span> Was he taking an,, active part in the fight?— Oh yes, at that time.
<span id="rc7419">[[#rc7419|7419]]</span> Was [[SConst John Kelly|Senior-Constable Kelly]] on the ground?— Yes, he was there.
<span id="rc7420">[[#rc7420|7420]]</span> Did he give any orders?— I received none from him.
<span id="rc7421">[[#rc7421|7421]]</span> Was he considered by the men as the one who should give orders?— Yes, I considered so.
<span id="rc7422">[[#rc7422|7422]]</span> You all looked upon him as your superior officer when Mr. Hare was away?— Yes.
<span id="rc7423">[[#rc7423|7423]]</span> ''By Mr. Sadleir''— Was that after I arrived?— I mean before you arrived.
<span id="rc7424">[[#rc7424|7424]]</span> ''By the Commission''— Where was Mr. Sadleir during this time—after he arrived?— He first went to the other side of the house, where Gascoigne was, and I could not say where after. I suppose he must have gone round the house after that.
<span id="rc7425">[[#rc7425|7425]]</span> Where did you next see him?— Here, at the north side of the hotel
<span id="rc7426">[[#rc7426|7426]]</span> Was he near the hotel?— Yes, he was within about 50 or 60 yards of the hotel, at this end.
<span id="rc7427">[[#rc7427|7427]]</span> Did you consider that the [[KellyGang|Kellys]] were kept much longer in the house than they were needed to be; would you have been willing to rush the house?— Yes; if we had orders, I would have made one.
<span id="rc7428">[[#rc7428|7428]]</span> You did not propose it to your officer?— No.
<span id="rc7429">[[#rc7429|7429]]</span> Do you know that a proposal of that sort was made?— I heard so. I never heard it made.
<span id="rc7430">[[#rc7430|7430]]</span> Did you remain in that one position all day?— Till the prisoners came out, and then I went out to them, to where Mr. Sadleir was, on the north side.
<span id="rc7431">[[#rc7431|7431]]</span> Was it far from where Kelly was caught that you saw Mr. Sadleir?— Just about the same place. I was not there when Kelly was captured. I know whereabouts it is.
<span id="rc7432">[[#rc7432|7432]]</span> Was Mr. O'Connor with Mr. Sadleir then?— When the prisoners came out, I think he was.....
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