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Story of the KellyGang - the Royal Commission evidence

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== The Royal Commission evidence for 14/5/1881 ==

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(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 14/5/1881|day 20]])

'''[[Reardon|James Reardon]] '''giving evidence''''''

<span id="rc7678">[[#rc7678|7678]]</span> Had they any knowledge while you were there that [[Ned Kelly|Ned Kelly]] was taken?— They did not. Some of the people asked where was Ned Kelly, and they said they did not know, they thought he was done.

<span id="rc7679">[[#rc7679|7679]]</span> What time was that?— A little before we got out, at break of day.

<span id="rc7680">[[#rc7680|7680]]</span> Did they miss Ned Kelly before Byrne was shot?— Yes; they said he was gone, and supposed he was done.

<span id="rc7681">[[#rc7681|7681]]</span> Did they say they wished he was amongst them?— No.

<span id="rc7682">[[#rc7682|7682]]</span> “Done “ meant “shot”?— Yes.

<span id="rc7683">[[#rc7683|7683]]</span> Did they miss Ned Kelly before Byrne was shot?— I would not be sure; I wish to be correct, as Mr. O'Connor's statement about he considered there were about eighteen or twenty came out of the house—friends and sympathisers of the Kellys. I am quite sure I am not a sympathiser.

<span id="rc7684">[[#rc7684|7684]]</span> At the time that [[Steele|Steele]], you say, was firing upon you and your wife escaping, were the outlaws firing from the hotel?— No, I am positive sure they were not. ([[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (68)|JJK]])

<span id="rc7685">[[#rc7685|7685]]</span> Why?— Because they were standing still, and I could hear if they did.

<span id="rc7686">[[#rc7686|7686]]</span> Did they say they would not fire until you had escaped?— They said they would not.

<span id="rc7687">[[#rc7687|7687]]</span> Sergeant Steele told you that he had shot your son?— Yes, Sergeant Steele told me, and several others.

<span id="rc7688">[[#rc7688|7688]]</span> In saying so did he assign any reason?— Yes, he said he did not hold up his hand.

<span id="rc7689">[[#rc7689|7689]]</span> Did he say he called on him to hold up his hands?— No; the boy had a child in one hand and held up his other hand.

<span id="rc7690">[[#rc7690|7690]]</span> Was it daylight when you came out of the house?— Yes, when we got clean out.

<span id="rc7691">[[#rc7691|7691]]</span> It was not daylight at the time you had to return?— No.

<span id="rc7692">[[#rc7692|7692]]</span> Was it daylight when Mr. O'Connor spoke to you from the culvert?— No.

<span id="rc7693">[[#rc7693|7693]]</span> How could you tell?— From where he spoke. I was half-way between the verandah and the fence, and the others, [[Jack Ryan|Ryan]] and his family of three, and my children were on the right just over the culvert, and the voice sang out from under the culvert— “Who comes there?” and Ryan said, “Women and children.”

<span id="rc7694">[[#rc7694|7694]]</span> What did they do then?— They went on and they continued to fire.

<span id="rc7695">[[#rc7695|7695]]</span> Ryan escaped through the gate?— Yes, but it was so hot for me, I went back with my wife and son and child.

<span id="rc7696">[[#rc7696|7696]]</span> What time was it, as near as you can make it, when you first proposed to go out?— I would not swear to the time. I daresay it might be about—I could not say exactly.

<span id="rc7697">[[#rc7697|7697]]</span> How long was this before your son was shot?— About an hour, as near as I can remember.

<span id="rc7698">[[#rc7698|7698]]</span> Did you see Mrs. Jones's child shot?— I did not, but I heard him sing out, “I am shot, I am shot.”

<span id="rc7699">[[#rc7699|7699]]</span> Your son was shot?— Yes.

<span id="rc7700">[[#rc7700|7700]]</span> [[Jones' Glenrowan Inn|Mrs. Jones's]] son shot and daughter wounded?— Yes.

<span id="rc7701">[[#rc7701|7701]]</span> Did you see this man who asked you to take up rails; did you see him carry out any of the wounded children from the house, I mean McHugh?— No, I was in another room; I was told he did.

<span id="rc7702">[[#rc7702|7702]]</span> Do you knew the wounded child was carried out?— Yes, and carried to my place.

<span id="rc7703">[[#rc7703|7703]]</span> Can you fix about the time it was by any circumstance?— About the second volley fired by the police.

<span id="rc7704">[[#rc7704|7704]]</span> Can you fix the time that [[Neil McHugh|McHugh]] carried out Mrs. Jones's child?— No, I would not swear to it.

<span id="rc7705">[[#rc7705|7705]]</span> Was it before or after you attempted to escape?— Before, and I followed them half an hour after.

<span id="rc7706">[[#rc7706|7706]]</span> That would be an hour and three-quarters before your son was shot?— Yes.

<span id="rc7707">[[#rc7707|7707]]</span> The point is this: the second volley the police fired was fired within ten minutes after the commencement?— Yes, and less.

<span id="rc7708">[[#rc7708|7708]]</span> Within seven minutes?— Perhaps less still.

<span id="rc7709">[[#rc7709|7709]]</span> The second volley was the time that Mrs. Jones's child was shot?— Yes.

<span id="rc7710">[[#rc7710|7710]]</span> How long after the child was shot did McHugh run out with it?— A few minutes after.

<span id="rc7711">[[#rc7711|7711]]</span> Then that would be within twenty minutes after the police commenced to shoot?— It would be about that.....

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