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== The Royal Commission evidence for 9/6/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 9/6/1881|day 28]])
'''[[../../people/peA/arthurJPC.html|'''Const James Arthur''']] giving evidence'''
<span id="rc11107">[[#rc11107|11107]]</span> Did you believe he knew where they were at the time?— No.
<span id="rc11108">[[#rc11108|11108]]</span> Did you believe he knew anything of their movements?— The way I thought he did it was he went to [[Margaret Skillion|Mrs. Skillian]] and carried information to them.
<span id="rc11109">[[#rc11109|11109]]</span> He was giving her information about the movements of the police?— Yes.
<span id="rc11110">[[#rc11110|11110]]</span> How do you account for their hatred to him that led them to shoot him?— Well, the time that Mr. Nicolson’s party was up there, Sherritt was supposed to be seen by some of the sympathizers, and they took the word to Kelly afterwards, and that was the reason he was shot.
<span id="rc11111">[[#rc11111|11111]]</span> Was it possible he was shot for being supposed to give information that was really given by others?— That was all I could make out the reason.
<span id="rc11112">[[#rc11112|11112]]</span> Were you at the [[Glenrowan|Glenrowan]] affair?— Yes, I went up with Mr. [[Hare|Hare]].
<span id="rc11113">[[#rc11113|11113]]</span> About three o'clock in the morning?— Yes.
<span id="rc11114">[[#rc11114|11114]]</span> Where were you stationed?— At different places. First when I went there I was stationed alongside of Mr Hare, through the gate. He was partly through the wicket-gate when the first shot was fired—just going through. When the first volley went he was clear; he was struck on the second volley.
<span id="rc11115">[[#rc11115|11115]]</span> Were you by when he was struck?— I was about five yards from him. His hand fell. I saw him loading with the gun between his knees, and I asked what was the matter, and he said he was shot in the wrist.
<span id="rc11116">[[#rc11116|11116]]</span> Did he load and fire after he was wounded?— Yes.
<span id="rc11117">[[#rc11117|11117]]</span> How many times?— I saw him fire twice.
<span id="rc11118">[[#rc11118|11118]]</span> Was it a double barrelled gun?— Yes. He was in the act of loading when I saw him the second time. He had discharged the barrels before.
<span id="rc11119">[[#rc11119|11119]]</span> Do you remember the women getting out before daylight?— Yes. There were some tried to get out just before Mr. Hare left, and they went back again frightened.
<span id="rc11120">[[#rc11120|11120]]</span> Did you hear the screams as soon as the first volley was fired?— Not the first; but after the second or third there were screams, and then Mr. Hare gave orders to cease firing, to allow them to come out.
<span id="rc11121">[[#rc11121|11121]]</span> Do you remember Mrs. [[Reardon|Reardon]] coming out, and her son, and Mr. Reardon?— Yes, that was near daylight.
<span id="rc11122">[[#rc11122|11122]]</span> Where were you stationed at that time?— About thirty yards from the house, on the Wangaratta side of Jones's hotel.
<span id="rc11123">[[#rc11123|11123]]</span> Were you stationed towards the back or front?— Between the two, opposite in a line with the passage.
<span id="rc11124">[[#rc11124|11124]]</span> That was about due north of the house?— Yes.
<span id="rc11125">[[#rc11125|11125]]</span> Did you hear Mrs. Reardon cry out anything?— Yes, when she came out she screamed out. I could not make out what she said. She screamed out as loud as she could, and had a child in her arms, and when she came out Steele sang out, “Throw up your hands, or I will shoot you like a dog” and the woman was coming towards him, and he fired. ([[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (65)|JJK]])
<span id="rc11126">[[#rc11126|11126]]</span> Did you suppose him to fire at her?— He fired direct at her; we could see it in the moonlight, and then she turned round, and then he fired a second shot, and then I spoke to him and told him not to fire—this was an innocent woman. I could see her with a child in her arms; and then afterwards he turned round and said, “I have shot [[Jones' Glenrowan Inn|Mother Jones]] in the .” Constable [[Const W Phillips|Phillips]] was on his right, on the right hand behind, and I heard him make some remark about a feather. I could not say what it was.
<span id="rc11127">[[#rc11127|11127]]</span> Did you make any remark at that time?— I told him not to fire—it was an innocent woman. I said I would shoot him if he fired.
<span id="rc11128">[[#rc11128|11128]]</span> How far were you from him?— About 20 yards.
<span id="rc11129">[[#rc11129|11129]]</span> What door did they come from?— The back door of the hotel, out of the passage, and just as she came out of the passage [[Steele|Steele]] fired.
<span id="rc11130">[[#rc11130|11130]]</span> Right behind the hotel?— Yes.
<span id="rc11131">[[#rc11131|11131]]</span> Did you see her son coming out?— Yes, I saw the young fellow coming out, leading a child.
<span id="rc11132">[[#rc11132|11132]]</span> Could you distinguish it was the figure of a man?— Yes, I could see it was a young men.
<span id="rc11133">[[#rc11133|11133]]</span> It was light enough?— Oh, quite light.
<span id="rc11134">[[#rc11134|11134]]</span> Was he crawling or walking?— Walking, leading the child.
<span id="rc11135">[[#rc11135|11135]]</span> Had he his hand up?— After Steele called out to him, he hold his hand up, and Steele fired.
<span id="rc11136">[[#rc11136|11136]]</span> After his hand was up?— Yes, and he turned round, and as he went into the door he was shot—I would not swear who fired it—and he fell.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 9/6/1881 ==
''''''
=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 9/6/1881|day 28]])
'''[[../../people/peA/arthurJPC.html|'''Const James Arthur''']] giving evidence'''
<span id="rc11107">[[#rc11107|11107]]</span> Did you believe he knew where they were at the time?— No.
<span id="rc11108">[[#rc11108|11108]]</span> Did you believe he knew anything of their movements?— The way I thought he did it was he went to [[Margaret Skillion|Mrs. Skillian]] and carried information to them.
<span id="rc11109">[[#rc11109|11109]]</span> He was giving her information about the movements of the police?— Yes.
<span id="rc11110">[[#rc11110|11110]]</span> How do you account for their hatred to him that led them to shoot him?— Well, the time that Mr. Nicolson’s party was up there, Sherritt was supposed to be seen by some of the sympathizers, and they took the word to Kelly afterwards, and that was the reason he was shot.
<span id="rc11111">[[#rc11111|11111]]</span> Was it possible he was shot for being supposed to give information that was really given by others?— That was all I could make out the reason.
<span id="rc11112">[[#rc11112|11112]]</span> Were you at the [[Glenrowan|Glenrowan]] affair?— Yes, I went up with Mr. [[Hare|Hare]].
<span id="rc11113">[[#rc11113|11113]]</span> About three o'clock in the morning?— Yes.
<span id="rc11114">[[#rc11114|11114]]</span> Where were you stationed?— At different places. First when I went there I was stationed alongside of Mr Hare, through the gate. He was partly through the wicket-gate when the first shot was fired—just going through. When the first volley went he was clear; he was struck on the second volley.
<span id="rc11115">[[#rc11115|11115]]</span> Were you by when he was struck?— I was about five yards from him. His hand fell. I saw him loading with the gun between his knees, and I asked what was the matter, and he said he was shot in the wrist.
<span id="rc11116">[[#rc11116|11116]]</span> Did he load and fire after he was wounded?— Yes.
<span id="rc11117">[[#rc11117|11117]]</span> How many times?— I saw him fire twice.
<span id="rc11118">[[#rc11118|11118]]</span> Was it a double barrelled gun?— Yes. He was in the act of loading when I saw him the second time. He had discharged the barrels before.
<span id="rc11119">[[#rc11119|11119]]</span> Do you remember the women getting out before daylight?— Yes. There were some tried to get out just before Mr. Hare left, and they went back again frightened.
<span id="rc11120">[[#rc11120|11120]]</span> Did you hear the screams as soon as the first volley was fired?— Not the first; but after the second or third there were screams, and then Mr. Hare gave orders to cease firing, to allow them to come out.
<span id="rc11121">[[#rc11121|11121]]</span> Do you remember Mrs. [[Reardon|Reardon]] coming out, and her son, and Mr. Reardon?— Yes, that was near daylight.
<span id="rc11122">[[#rc11122|11122]]</span> Where were you stationed at that time?— About thirty yards from the house, on the Wangaratta side of Jones's hotel.
<span id="rc11123">[[#rc11123|11123]]</span> Were you stationed towards the back or front?— Between the two, opposite in a line with the passage.
<span id="rc11124">[[#rc11124|11124]]</span> That was about due north of the house?— Yes.
<span id="rc11125">[[#rc11125|11125]]</span> Did you hear Mrs. Reardon cry out anything?— Yes, when she came out she screamed out. I could not make out what she said. She screamed out as loud as she could, and had a child in her arms, and when she came out Steele sang out, “Throw up your hands, or I will shoot you like a dog” and the woman was coming towards him, and he fired. ([[The Complete Inner History of the KellyGang and their Pursuers (65)|JJK]])
<span id="rc11126">[[#rc11126|11126]]</span> Did you suppose him to fire at her?— He fired direct at her; we could see it in the moonlight, and then she turned round, and then he fired a second shot, and then I spoke to him and told him not to fire—this was an innocent woman. I could see her with a child in her arms; and then afterwards he turned round and said, “I have shot [[Jones' Glenrowan Inn|Mother Jones]] in the .” Constable [[Const W Phillips|Phillips]] was on his right, on the right hand behind, and I heard him make some remark about a feather. I could not say what it was.
<span id="rc11127">[[#rc11127|11127]]</span> Did you make any remark at that time?— I told him not to fire—it was an innocent woman. I said I would shoot him if he fired.
<span id="rc11128">[[#rc11128|11128]]</span> How far were you from him?— About 20 yards.
<span id="rc11129">[[#rc11129|11129]]</span> What door did they come from?— The back door of the hotel, out of the passage, and just as she came out of the passage [[Steele|Steele]] fired.
<span id="rc11130">[[#rc11130|11130]]</span> Right behind the hotel?— Yes.
<span id="rc11131">[[#rc11131|11131]]</span> Did you see her son coming out?— Yes, I saw the young fellow coming out, leading a child.
<span id="rc11132">[[#rc11132|11132]]</span> Could you distinguish it was the figure of a man?— Yes, I could see it was a young men.
<span id="rc11133">[[#rc11133|11133]]</span> It was light enough?— Oh, quite light.
<span id="rc11134">[[#rc11134|11134]]</span> Was he crawling or walking?— Walking, leading the child.
<span id="rc11135">[[#rc11135|11135]]</span> Had he his hand up?— After Steele called out to him, he hold his hand up, and Steele fired.
<span id="rc11136">[[#rc11136|11136]]</span> After his hand was up?— Yes, and he turned round, and as he went into the door he was shot—I would not swear who fired it—and he fell.....
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