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== The Royal Commission evidence for 15/6/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 15/6/1881|day 30]])
[[../../people/peQ_R/rawlinsC.html|'''Mr Charles C. Rawlins''']] '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc11609">[[#rc11609|11609]]</span> Carrying his gun and ammunition?— Yes.
<span id="rc11610">[[#rc11610|11610]]</span> Where did you eventually leave Mr. [[Hare|Hare]]?— I eventually left him in the railway carriage while I went with ammunition to [[SConst John Kelly|Senior-Constable Kelly]].
<span id="rc11611">[[#rc11611|11611]]</span> How long were you away before you again saw him?— About ten minutes.
<span id="rc11612">[[#rc11612|11612]]</span> Where was he when you saw him the second time?— He was in the railway carriage.
<span id="rc11613">[[#rc11613|11613]]</span> ''By the Commission''— You stated you left him in the railway carriage?— I left him to get into the carriage, but I do not think he had sat in it. I went away twice from the platform.
<span id="rc11614">[[#rc11614|11614]]</span> ''By Mr. [[O'Connor|O'Connor]]'' — When you first brought Mr. Hare back from the field?— That was Stanistreet's—we did not go to the station at first.
<span id="rc11615">[[#rc11615|11615]]</span> And then from there you accompanied Mr. Hare to the platform?— Yes, and he was to get in the train and be sent back.
<span id="rc11616">[[#rc11616|11616]]</span> Ten minutes after this you found him?— I went with ammunition to Senior-Constable Kelly because they were short, and I then saw Mr. Hare in the railway carriage with your wife and Mrs. Webb.
<span id="rc11617">[[#rc11617|11617]]</span> Can you remember any remark the ladies made to you in reference to Mr. Hare?— They asked me to go down in the train with Mr. Hare.
<span id="rc11618">[[#rc11618|11618]]</span> For what reason?— Because Mr. Hare was culling out—they were frightened.
<span id="rc11619">[[#rc11619|11619]]</span> Do you remember Mr. Hare asking you to get him a horse to ride to Benalla?— Yes.
<span id="rc11620">[[#rc11620|11620]]</span> He asked you. He said, “Rawlins, get me a horse, get me anything, so that I can get to Benalla”?— He said, “Send me down to Benalla,” and I then went to see the engine-driver to take me down, and your wife wanted me to go down in the carriage with them because they were frightened, Mr. Hare seemed so ill. The engine-driver told me that he was frightened to take the train.
<span id="rc11621">[[#rc11621|11621]]</span> Then he said to you. “Rawlins, go and get the engine ready”?— Yes, he said, “Get an engine, get anything, send me back to Benalla.”
<span id="rc11622">[[#rc11622|11622]]</span> And you went and told the engine-driver?— I did. He wanted to take him back. The engine-driver did not seem to know what to do.
<span id="rc11623">[[#rc11623|11623]]</span> This engine went down without Mr. Hare?— No, the one that went down without Mr. Hare went down when fighting was going on.
<span id="rc11624">[[#rc11624|11624]]</span> Before Mr. Hare got to the platform?— Yes.
<span id="rc11625">[[#rc11625|11625]]</span> This second engine—what did Mr. Hare do—did he get into it?— I arranged with the engine-driver to take him on the engine, instead of taking the carriages back, to run down without them. He said, “I will run him down in ten minutes;” and I went and brought Mr. Hare out of the train and put him on the engine, and he went away.
<span id="rc11626">[[#rc11626|11626]]</span> How long was that from the time he had been first wounded—to the best of your opinion. Time appeared to go very slowly there, I know, but you can give an opinion?— Well, I do not suppose it could have been more than twelve or fourteen minutes the whole thing, but of course it is so difficult at this moment to remember what happened.
<span id="rc11627">[[#rc11627|11627]]</span> A quarter of an hour?— About that.
<span id="rc11628">[[#rc11628|11628]]</span> Were you at Glenrowan the remainder of the day after Mr. Hare left?— I was there to the end.
<span id="rc11629">[[#rc11629|11629]]</span> Did you see me going about?— Yes, I saw you twice before the prisoners came out. After that I saw you repeatedly.
<span id="rc11630">[[#rc11630|11630]]</span> ''By the Commission''— Which prisoners?— Reardon and family, and the others.
<span id="rc11631">[[#rc11631|11631]]</span> ''By Mr. O' Connor''— The mob, of prisoners?— Yes.
<span id="rc11632">[[#rc11632|11632]]</span> What was I doing during that time?— During the time I saw you?
<span id="rc11633">[[#rc11633|11633]]</span> Yes?— You came to the carriage to see your wife and tell her you were all right. The other time you were in conversation with Mr.[[Sadleir|Sadleir]]. That is all that I raw up to ten o'clock . You had a big handkerchief round your neck.
<span id="rc11634">[[#rc11634|11634]]</span> At the time the prisoners came out did you see me?— No.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 15/6/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 15/6/1881|day 30]])
[[../../people/peQ_R/rawlinsC.html|'''Mr Charles C. Rawlins''']] '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc11609">[[#rc11609|11609]]</span> Carrying his gun and ammunition?— Yes.
<span id="rc11610">[[#rc11610|11610]]</span> Where did you eventually leave Mr. [[Hare|Hare]]?— I eventually left him in the railway carriage while I went with ammunition to [[SConst John Kelly|Senior-Constable Kelly]].
<span id="rc11611">[[#rc11611|11611]]</span> How long were you away before you again saw him?— About ten minutes.
<span id="rc11612">[[#rc11612|11612]]</span> Where was he when you saw him the second time?— He was in the railway carriage.
<span id="rc11613">[[#rc11613|11613]]</span> ''By the Commission''— You stated you left him in the railway carriage?— I left him to get into the carriage, but I do not think he had sat in it. I went away twice from the platform.
<span id="rc11614">[[#rc11614|11614]]</span> ''By Mr. [[O'Connor|O'Connor]]'' — When you first brought Mr. Hare back from the field?— That was Stanistreet's—we did not go to the station at first.
<span id="rc11615">[[#rc11615|11615]]</span> And then from there you accompanied Mr. Hare to the platform?— Yes, and he was to get in the train and be sent back.
<span id="rc11616">[[#rc11616|11616]]</span> Ten minutes after this you found him?— I went with ammunition to Senior-Constable Kelly because they were short, and I then saw Mr. Hare in the railway carriage with your wife and Mrs. Webb.
<span id="rc11617">[[#rc11617|11617]]</span> Can you remember any remark the ladies made to you in reference to Mr. Hare?— They asked me to go down in the train with Mr. Hare.
<span id="rc11618">[[#rc11618|11618]]</span> For what reason?— Because Mr. Hare was culling out—they were frightened.
<span id="rc11619">[[#rc11619|11619]]</span> Do you remember Mr. Hare asking you to get him a horse to ride to Benalla?— Yes.
<span id="rc11620">[[#rc11620|11620]]</span> He asked you. He said, “Rawlins, get me a horse, get me anything, so that I can get to Benalla”?— He said, “Send me down to Benalla,” and I then went to see the engine-driver to take me down, and your wife wanted me to go down in the carriage with them because they were frightened, Mr. Hare seemed so ill. The engine-driver told me that he was frightened to take the train.
<span id="rc11621">[[#rc11621|11621]]</span> Then he said to you. “Rawlins, go and get the engine ready”?— Yes, he said, “Get an engine, get anything, send me back to Benalla.”
<span id="rc11622">[[#rc11622|11622]]</span> And you went and told the engine-driver?— I did. He wanted to take him back. The engine-driver did not seem to know what to do.
<span id="rc11623">[[#rc11623|11623]]</span> This engine went down without Mr. Hare?— No, the one that went down without Mr. Hare went down when fighting was going on.
<span id="rc11624">[[#rc11624|11624]]</span> Before Mr. Hare got to the platform?— Yes.
<span id="rc11625">[[#rc11625|11625]]</span> This second engine—what did Mr. Hare do—did he get into it?— I arranged with the engine-driver to take him on the engine, instead of taking the carriages back, to run down without them. He said, “I will run him down in ten minutes;” and I went and brought Mr. Hare out of the train and put him on the engine, and he went away.
<span id="rc11626">[[#rc11626|11626]]</span> How long was that from the time he had been first wounded—to the best of your opinion. Time appeared to go very slowly there, I know, but you can give an opinion?— Well, I do not suppose it could have been more than twelve or fourteen minutes the whole thing, but of course it is so difficult at this moment to remember what happened.
<span id="rc11627">[[#rc11627|11627]]</span> A quarter of an hour?— About that.
<span id="rc11628">[[#rc11628|11628]]</span> Were you at Glenrowan the remainder of the day after Mr. Hare left?— I was there to the end.
<span id="rc11629">[[#rc11629|11629]]</span> Did you see me going about?— Yes, I saw you twice before the prisoners came out. After that I saw you repeatedly.
<span id="rc11630">[[#rc11630|11630]]</span> ''By the Commission''— Which prisoners?— Reardon and family, and the others.
<span id="rc11631">[[#rc11631|11631]]</span> ''By Mr. O' Connor''— The mob, of prisoners?— Yes.
<span id="rc11632">[[#rc11632|11632]]</span> What was I doing during that time?— During the time I saw you?
<span id="rc11633">[[#rc11633|11633]]</span> Yes?— You came to the carriage to see your wife and tell her you were all right. The other time you were in conversation with Mr.[[Sadleir|Sadleir]]. That is all that I raw up to ten o'clock . You had a big handkerchief round your neck.
<span id="rc11634">[[#rc11634|11634]]</span> At the time the prisoners came out did you see me?— No.....
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