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== The Royal Commission evidence for 20/7/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 20/7/1881|day 37]])
[[../../people/peS_T/sherrittEllenMrsJnr.html|'''Mrs. Sherritt, junior''']] '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc13285">[[#rc13285|13285]]</span> We did hear that there was a religious difference between them–were you and he Protestants?— I am a Catholic.
<span id="rc13286">[[#rc13286|13286]]</span> He was a Protestant?— He said he was nothing. His people said they were vexed about the [[Teachers Priests and Clergy|religion]], but I did not think it; I think it was because he left off working for them. He was not friends with his people since he was married, and to my knowledge he never spoke to one of them.
<span id="rc13287">[[#rc13287|13287]]</span> Was he not friendly with his mother?— I think not. He and she had some quarrel after the marriage
<span id="rc13288">[[#rc13288|13288]]</span> Did he let you know he was not on friendly terms with them?— Yes, he told me not to speak to them–not to go out to the place.
<span id="rc13289">[[#rc13289|13289]]</span> That would not be on any religious point?— No.
<span id="rc13290">[[#rc13290|13290]]</span> Because if he was speaking to Miss Byrne before, she was a Roman Catholic also?— Yes. He seemed to be well satisfied. He said he would turn a Catholic just the night before he was shot. It was on Friday night. He said he would get the horses next day and come up to the Catholic chapel at Beechworth, so he seemed well satisfied with the religion.
<span id="rc13291">[[#rc13291|13291]]</span> You were born near that place?— Yes. I only knew my husband two months before we were married.
<span id="rc13292">[[#rc13292|13292]]</span> You did not go to school together?— No.
<span id="rc13293">[[#rc13293|13293]]</span> Your opinion is that he was shot on account of giving information to the police?— He was assisting them. He used to go out on parties, leading them to the ranges–this was before I and he were married–and he was out once or twice afterwards.
<span id="rc13294">[[#rc13294|13294]]</span> It was not because he did not marry [[Catherine Byrne, Kate Byrne|Miss Byrne]] he was shot?— Oh, no; it was not on that account at all. I fancy, myself, that there was information given to [[Sympathizers|sympathizers]], and then it was taken to the outlaws, that he was joining the police, and assisting them to capture the outlaws. That was my belief, and I heard it from many a one.
<span id="rc13295">[[#rc13295|13295]]</span> Have you any knowledge of anyone who was likely to give that information?— Well, there are plenty of sympathizers about the [[Woolshed|Woolshed]], people who would sympathize with the Byrnes , and I think they would tell the outlaws.
<span id="rc13296">[[#rc13296|13296]]</span> [[Anne and John Sherritt Snr|Mrs. Sherritt]], senior, has said that she knew that they suspected him?— I dare say they suspected him when he would not join them to go to Jerilderie that time. They might suspect him, but I do not think they would know unless the friends conveyed it to them. I heard they asked him to go to Jerilderie
<span id="rc13297">[[#rc13297|13297]]</span> Did he tell you that himself?— Yes.
<span id="rc13298">[[#rc13298|13298]]</span> Do you know [[James Wallace|Wallace]] the schoolmaster there?— Yes.
<span id="rc13299">[[#rc13299|13299]]</span> Did he come to your place during the time the police were there?— No, he came to my mother's place.
<span id="rc13300">[[#rc13300|13300]]</span> He did not come to your own place after you were married?— No.
<span id="rc13301">[[#rc13301|13301]]</span> Did he ever make any remarks that led you to suppose he was favorable to the outlaws?— No, he seemed to have a hatred against them, and I do not think he knew where they were or anything about them. Some people seemed to think he was assisting the outlaws, but that was false. I heard something about his being a sympathizer, but I do not know how true it is.
<span id="rc13302">[[#rc13302|13302]]</span> You never had any opportunity of judging of that after you were married?— No.
<span id="rc13303">[[#rc13303|13303]]</span> Are you on friendly terms with [[Anne and John Sherritt Snr|Mrs. Sherritt]] , senior, now?— No, I have not spoken to her since I was married. There was one of his brothers used to slip down for two or three weeks. He used to stay at my place during the time the police were there.
<span id="rc13304">[[#rc13304|13304]]</span> Did he stay in the hut at night?— He used to sleep at the place at night time while they were away. He was splitting in the bush with another young man.
<span id="rc13305">[[#rc13305|13305]]</span> Would he know they were there?— He knew very well they were there–of course he saw them there when he was stopping there.
<span id="rc13306">[[#rc13306|13306]]</span> Is there anything else you wish to say?— No.
<span id="rc13307">[[#rc13307|13307]]</span> Are you living at Beechworth now?— No, I have been living with my mother. I have not had good health since my husband's death. My mother lives on the Woolshed.
<span id="rc13308">[[#rc13308|13308]]</span> Does your own mother know any more about this than you do?— Well, she can remember a good many things I have forgotten since then. I was in such a state at the time that I could not remember half what happened.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 20/7/1881 ==
''''''
=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 20/7/1881|day 37]])
[[../../people/peS_T/sherrittEllenMrsJnr.html|'''Mrs. Sherritt, junior''']] '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc13285">[[#rc13285|13285]]</span> We did hear that there was a religious difference between them–were you and he Protestants?— I am a Catholic.
<span id="rc13286">[[#rc13286|13286]]</span> He was a Protestant?— He said he was nothing. His people said they were vexed about the [[Teachers Priests and Clergy|religion]], but I did not think it; I think it was because he left off working for them. He was not friends with his people since he was married, and to my knowledge he never spoke to one of them.
<span id="rc13287">[[#rc13287|13287]]</span> Was he not friendly with his mother?— I think not. He and she had some quarrel after the marriage
<span id="rc13288">[[#rc13288|13288]]</span> Did he let you know he was not on friendly terms with them?— Yes, he told me not to speak to them–not to go out to the place.
<span id="rc13289">[[#rc13289|13289]]</span> That would not be on any religious point?— No.
<span id="rc13290">[[#rc13290|13290]]</span> Because if he was speaking to Miss Byrne before, she was a Roman Catholic also?— Yes. He seemed to be well satisfied. He said he would turn a Catholic just the night before he was shot. It was on Friday night. He said he would get the horses next day and come up to the Catholic chapel at Beechworth, so he seemed well satisfied with the religion.
<span id="rc13291">[[#rc13291|13291]]</span> You were born near that place?— Yes. I only knew my husband two months before we were married.
<span id="rc13292">[[#rc13292|13292]]</span> You did not go to school together?— No.
<span id="rc13293">[[#rc13293|13293]]</span> Your opinion is that he was shot on account of giving information to the police?— He was assisting them. He used to go out on parties, leading them to the ranges–this was before I and he were married–and he was out once or twice afterwards.
<span id="rc13294">[[#rc13294|13294]]</span> It was not because he did not marry [[Catherine Byrne, Kate Byrne|Miss Byrne]] he was shot?— Oh, no; it was not on that account at all. I fancy, myself, that there was information given to [[Sympathizers|sympathizers]], and then it was taken to the outlaws, that he was joining the police, and assisting them to capture the outlaws. That was my belief, and I heard it from many a one.
<span id="rc13295">[[#rc13295|13295]]</span> Have you any knowledge of anyone who was likely to give that information?— Well, there are plenty of sympathizers about the [[Woolshed|Woolshed]], people who would sympathize with the Byrnes , and I think they would tell the outlaws.
<span id="rc13296">[[#rc13296|13296]]</span> [[Anne and John Sherritt Snr|Mrs. Sherritt]], senior, has said that she knew that they suspected him?— I dare say they suspected him when he would not join them to go to Jerilderie that time. They might suspect him, but I do not think they would know unless the friends conveyed it to them. I heard they asked him to go to Jerilderie
<span id="rc13297">[[#rc13297|13297]]</span> Did he tell you that himself?— Yes.
<span id="rc13298">[[#rc13298|13298]]</span> Do you know [[James Wallace|Wallace]] the schoolmaster there?— Yes.
<span id="rc13299">[[#rc13299|13299]]</span> Did he come to your place during the time the police were there?— No, he came to my mother's place.
<span id="rc13300">[[#rc13300|13300]]</span> He did not come to your own place after you were married?— No.
<span id="rc13301">[[#rc13301|13301]]</span> Did he ever make any remarks that led you to suppose he was favorable to the outlaws?— No, he seemed to have a hatred against them, and I do not think he knew where they were or anything about them. Some people seemed to think he was assisting the outlaws, but that was false. I heard something about his being a sympathizer, but I do not know how true it is.
<span id="rc13302">[[#rc13302|13302]]</span> You never had any opportunity of judging of that after you were married?— No.
<span id="rc13303">[[#rc13303|13303]]</span> Are you on friendly terms with [[Anne and John Sherritt Snr|Mrs. Sherritt]] , senior, now?— No, I have not spoken to her since I was married. There was one of his brothers used to slip down for two or three weeks. He used to stay at my place during the time the police were there.
<span id="rc13304">[[#rc13304|13304]]</span> Did he stay in the hut at night?— He used to sleep at the place at night time while they were away. He was splitting in the bush with another young man.
<span id="rc13305">[[#rc13305|13305]]</span> Would he know they were there?— He knew very well they were there–of course he saw them there when he was stopping there.
<span id="rc13306">[[#rc13306|13306]]</span> Is there anything else you wish to say?— No.
<span id="rc13307">[[#rc13307|13307]]</span> Are you living at Beechworth now?— No, I have been living with my mother. I have not had good health since my husband's death. My mother lives on the Woolshed.
<span id="rc13308">[[#rc13308|13308]]</span> Does your own mother know any more about this than you do?— Well, she can remember a good many things I have forgotten since then. I was in such a state at the time that I could not remember half what happened.....
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