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== The Royal Commission evidence for 10/8/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 10/8/1881|day 45]])
'''John [[John Sherritt Jnr|Sherritt]]''' '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc15316">[[#rc15316|15316]]</span> There was one occasion, on the 13th November, that you said Mr. Nicolson did not act on your information?— Yes.
15317 Was there any other time that you informed Mr. Nicolson of their being anywhere about that he did not act upon your information?— Yes; the four outlaws were in [[Mrs Margaret Byrne|Mrs. Byrne's]]. I think I told [[Ward|Ward]] .
15318 Was it Detective Ward or Mr. Nicolson you told?— Ward.
15319 Was it Detective Ward or Mr. Nicolson that you told those things to generally?— Well, both of them I told generally.
<span id="rc15320">[[#rc15320|15320]]</span> ''By Mr. Nicolson''— I was up every time at Beechworth—was that about the Chinaman before or after Dan Kelly’s visit to your house?— I cannot get near the period.
15321 Can you say whether it was before or after?— I cannot say.
15322 Do you remember whether it was before or after Byrne's visit to your house?— Byrne came after Dan to my place, when we were inside.
15823 Was the Chinaman affair before or after that?— I do not know. I dare say I could find out.
15324 ''By the Commission''— Was there a long time between the two occurrences?— He has called so many times on the Chinaman, I cannot remember.
15325 You understand the two circumstances alluded to?— Yes.
15326 Can you remember, by reflecting a little, as to the probable length of time between the time Byrne called at your place, to tell you they did not stick up the bank, and the time that Dan Kelly and he called at the Chinaman's store?— I do not know.
15327 Was there six months?— No.
15328 A month?— No, not a month at all. I think about a week, to the best of my belief.
15329 ''By Mr. Nicolson''— When you saw me on all occasions, did you see any member of the force first at Beechworth?— Not always; sometimes I did.
<span id="rc15330">[[#rc15330|15330]]</span> Were you not in the habit of coming in and seeing Ward or Mullane; I was not always there?— I do not think I ever saw [[SConst P Mullane|Mullane]] in regard to the Kellys in my life; I saw Ward.
15331 Did you ever see me on any occasion but when you were brought by Ward or I was to meet you by direction of Ward?— Yes, you have come to me.
15332 Did you ever come to me without Ward's knowing of it?— I do not think so.
15333 Did you ever see me without seeing Ward first?— I think I saw you first when I went to give information about Dan being at our place.
15334 ''By the Commission''— Did you on more than one occasion see Mr. Nicolson and give him information without Ward being present?— Yes.
15335 Had you seen Ward before on those occasions?— No, I had not seen Ward before on all the occasions.
15336 How often did you see Mr. Nicolson in that way?— Two or three times.
15337 How often was that after you had told Ward?— On several occasions.
15338 Nine or ten times?— More than that.
15339 As a general rule, you saw Ward before you saw Mr. Nicolson?— Yes.
<span id="rc15340">[[#rc15340|15340]]</span> You made an arrangement with Mr. Nicolson to give certain information?— Yes.
15341 In the earliest arrangement?— Yes.
<span id="rc15342">[[#rc15342|15342]]</span> You were engaged by Mr. Nicolson?— Yes.
15343 Did you receive any order from him that you were to give anything that came to your knowledge—you were to convey it to anyone else in his absence?— Yes, to Ward.
15344 Then if you came in with any information and you mot Ward you would give it to Ward?— Yes, immediately.
15345 But if you came into Beechworth, and Ward was not there, and Mr. Nicolson was, was it your duty to see Ward first before you gave the information?— No.....
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== The Royal Commission evidence for 10/8/1881 ==
''''''
=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 10/8/1881|day 45]])
'''John [[John Sherritt Jnr|Sherritt]]''' '''giving evidence'''
<span id="rc15316">[[#rc15316|15316]]</span> There was one occasion, on the 13th November, that you said Mr. Nicolson did not act on your information?— Yes.
15317 Was there any other time that you informed Mr. Nicolson of their being anywhere about that he did not act upon your information?— Yes; the four outlaws were in [[Mrs Margaret Byrne|Mrs. Byrne's]]. I think I told [[Ward|Ward]] .
15318 Was it Detective Ward or Mr. Nicolson you told?— Ward.
15319 Was it Detective Ward or Mr. Nicolson that you told those things to generally?— Well, both of them I told generally.
<span id="rc15320">[[#rc15320|15320]]</span> ''By Mr. Nicolson''— I was up every time at Beechworth—was that about the Chinaman before or after Dan Kelly’s visit to your house?— I cannot get near the period.
15321 Can you say whether it was before or after?— I cannot say.
15322 Do you remember whether it was before or after Byrne's visit to your house?— Byrne came after Dan to my place, when we were inside.
15823 Was the Chinaman affair before or after that?— I do not know. I dare say I could find out.
15324 ''By the Commission''— Was there a long time between the two occurrences?— He has called so many times on the Chinaman, I cannot remember.
15325 You understand the two circumstances alluded to?— Yes.
15326 Can you remember, by reflecting a little, as to the probable length of time between the time Byrne called at your place, to tell you they did not stick up the bank, and the time that Dan Kelly and he called at the Chinaman's store?— I do not know.
15327 Was there six months?— No.
15328 A month?— No, not a month at all. I think about a week, to the best of my belief.
15329 ''By Mr. Nicolson''— When you saw me on all occasions, did you see any member of the force first at Beechworth?— Not always; sometimes I did.
<span id="rc15330">[[#rc15330|15330]]</span> Were you not in the habit of coming in and seeing Ward or Mullane; I was not always there?— I do not think I ever saw [[SConst P Mullane|Mullane]] in regard to the Kellys in my life; I saw Ward.
15331 Did you ever see me on any occasion but when you were brought by Ward or I was to meet you by direction of Ward?— Yes, you have come to me.
15332 Did you ever come to me without Ward's knowing of it?— I do not think so.
15333 Did you ever see me without seeing Ward first?— I think I saw you first when I went to give information about Dan being at our place.
15334 ''By the Commission''— Did you on more than one occasion see Mr. Nicolson and give him information without Ward being present?— Yes.
15335 Had you seen Ward before on those occasions?— No, I had not seen Ward before on all the occasions.
15336 How often did you see Mr. Nicolson in that way?— Two or three times.
15337 How often was that after you had told Ward?— On several occasions.
15338 Nine or ten times?— More than that.
15339 As a general rule, you saw Ward before you saw Mr. Nicolson?— Yes.
<span id="rc15340">[[#rc15340|15340]]</span> You made an arrangement with Mr. Nicolson to give certain information?— Yes.
15341 In the earliest arrangement?— Yes.
<span id="rc15342">[[#rc15342|15342]]</span> You were engaged by Mr. Nicolson?— Yes.
15343 Did you receive any order from him that you were to give anything that came to your knowledge—you were to convey it to anyone else in his absence?— Yes, to Ward.
15344 Then if you came in with any information and you mot Ward you would give it to Ward?— Yes, immediately.
15345 But if you came into Beechworth, and Ward was not there, and Mr. Nicolson was, was it your duty to see Ward first before you gave the information?— No.....
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