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== The Royal Commission evidence for 7/9/1881 ==
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 7/9/1881|day 50]])
[[../../people/peN_P/nicolsonPAC.html|'''Ass Com Charles Hope Nicolson''']] '''giving evidence'''
17010 ''By the Commission''. –How did Aaron get to [[Everton|Everton]] station?— By appointment; but he ought not to have shown himself there.
17011 He was there to help to search the country?— Yes; but he did not go to the particular spot; the man “[[Lawrence Kirwan|Renwick]]” took us to that.
17012 ''By'' ''Mr.'' ''Hare'' . –Sherritt went through the country?— Yes.
17013 With a party of police?— No; he led them principally, and went through the bush in front. We were desirous of going through the bush so as not to touch a habitation of any kind.
17014 Do you say you never met a person on the way between Everton and Mrs. Byrne's?— Not till [[Crawford|Crawford's]] paddock.
17015 Whom did you meet then?— Aaron kept away round the corner, and the police rode on to Crawford’s paddock, to the man who had charge of it.
<span id="rc17016">[[#rc17016|17016]]</span> Will you listen to this—“Renwick's” application for portion of the reward:— “I joined the party. We then started for Sebastopol . Aaron Sherritt also joined us, and I suggested to Superintendent Nicolson that Aaron Sherritt had better guide the party to Crawford 's paddock, and he knew the bush better than I did. We then went to Crawford's paddock, and from there to where I saw the man behind the rocks, but we did not get any trace of the outlaws. I am of opinion that the outlaws thought that Aaron Sherritt was the cause of this party going after them to Sebastopol, and they afterwards went to his hut and shot him, which was finally the cause of the outlaws being exterminated”?— I cannot help “Renwick” giving that opinion. I do not care whether he forms an opinion.
17017 Would not anybody else form the opinion that this man seen with a body of police, accompartying them through this bush, would be the means of the outlaws shooting him, and he was shot within a little time of that?— It was about a month after. Aaron was quite willing to come; and on any occasion, when he made the slightest objection, it was always considered. It was quite of his own accord.
17018 What did you join as?— Cadet.
17019 At what rate of pay?— I think 8s. a day.
17020 What was your rank when Power was arrested in 1870?— I was senior superintendent.
17021 At what salary?—£375, and house allowances.
17022 Mr. Winch was above you on the list?— Accidentally he was. Only on the list.
<span id="rc17023">[[#rc17023|17023]]</span> ''By the Commission''. –Was he, as a matter of fact, your senior or not?— No, there is a file of correspondence between myself and Captain Standish on the point. I found that Mr. Winch was placed on the list wrongly, and it was corrected by Captain Standish .
17024 ''By'' ''Mr.'' ''Hare'' . –You were removed from Kyneton to Melbourne ?— I was.
<span id="rc17025">[[#rc17025|17025]]</span> What rate of salary did you get the first year you were in Melbourne.?—£375, and £I00 a year from the Detective Department, and quarters and wood and water.
17026 What did our predecessor get in charge of the city?— He would receive £375.
17027 And what did your successor, Mr [[Winch|Winch]] , get?—£375
17028 At all events you got £100 a year more than any other officer in charge of the Melbourne district?— No, I got the £100 a year for charge of the detectives-for my experience of fourteen years before. I took charge of the detective force, for which I had a special qualification.
17029 You had charge of the city of Melbourne , Collingwood, and Richmond ?— All on this side of the Yarra.
17030 Irrespective of Brunswick , that now belongs to Mr. Winch?— Yes.
17031 You had no stations on the other side of the Yarra?— No.
17032 I had all this side?— Those were given to you.
17033 Then you were promoted to the rank of inspecting superintendent?— Yes.
17034 At what salary?— My pay was £425.
17035 That was what your predecessor got, Mr. Bookey?— I believe he did.
17036 Shortly after that you got an increase of your salary, did you not, of £75 a year?— Yes. That was on account of some particular representation. It was on the occasion of your having received another hundred a year, you and Mr. Winch
17037 And you retained that up to the present?— I did.
<span id="rc17038">[[#rc17038|17038]]</span> When were you made Assistant Commissioner?— On the 1st of October 1880 .
17039 Was that through an application of yours?— No.
17040 Was it an application of Captain Standish's?— I do not think so.....
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=== full text ===
(see also introduction to [[Royal Commission report 7/9/1881|day 50]])
[[../../people/peN_P/nicolsonPAC.html|'''Ass Com Charles Hope Nicolson''']] '''giving evidence'''
17010 ''By the Commission''. –How did Aaron get to [[Everton|Everton]] station?— By appointment; but he ought not to have shown himself there.
17011 He was there to help to search the country?— Yes; but he did not go to the particular spot; the man “[[Lawrence Kirwan|Renwick]]” took us to that.
17012 ''By'' ''Mr.'' ''Hare'' . –Sherritt went through the country?— Yes.
17013 With a party of police?— No; he led them principally, and went through the bush in front. We were desirous of going through the bush so as not to touch a habitation of any kind.
17014 Do you say you never met a person on the way between Everton and Mrs. Byrne's?— Not till [[Crawford|Crawford's]] paddock.
17015 Whom did you meet then?— Aaron kept away round the corner, and the police rode on to Crawford’s paddock, to the man who had charge of it.
<span id="rc17016">[[#rc17016|17016]]</span> Will you listen to this—“Renwick's” application for portion of the reward:— “I joined the party. We then started for Sebastopol . Aaron Sherritt also joined us, and I suggested to Superintendent Nicolson that Aaron Sherritt had better guide the party to Crawford 's paddock, and he knew the bush better than I did. We then went to Crawford's paddock, and from there to where I saw the man behind the rocks, but we did not get any trace of the outlaws. I am of opinion that the outlaws thought that Aaron Sherritt was the cause of this party going after them to Sebastopol, and they afterwards went to his hut and shot him, which was finally the cause of the outlaws being exterminated”?— I cannot help “Renwick” giving that opinion. I do not care whether he forms an opinion.
17017 Would not anybody else form the opinion that this man seen with a body of police, accompartying them through this bush, would be the means of the outlaws shooting him, and he was shot within a little time of that?— It was about a month after. Aaron was quite willing to come; and on any occasion, when he made the slightest objection, it was always considered. It was quite of his own accord.
17018 What did you join as?— Cadet.
17019 At what rate of pay?— I think 8s. a day.
17020 What was your rank when Power was arrested in 1870?— I was senior superintendent.
17021 At what salary?—£375, and house allowances.
17022 Mr. Winch was above you on the list?— Accidentally he was. Only on the list.
<span id="rc17023">[[#rc17023|17023]]</span> ''By the Commission''. –Was he, as a matter of fact, your senior or not?— No, there is a file of correspondence between myself and Captain Standish on the point. I found that Mr. Winch was placed on the list wrongly, and it was corrected by Captain Standish .
17024 ''By'' ''Mr.'' ''Hare'' . –You were removed from Kyneton to Melbourne ?— I was.
<span id="rc17025">[[#rc17025|17025]]</span> What rate of salary did you get the first year you were in Melbourne.?—£375, and £I00 a year from the Detective Department, and quarters and wood and water.
17026 What did our predecessor get in charge of the city?— He would receive £375.
17027 And what did your successor, Mr [[Winch|Winch]] , get?—£375
17028 At all events you got £100 a year more than any other officer in charge of the Melbourne district?— No, I got the £100 a year for charge of the detectives-for my experience of fourteen years before. I took charge of the detective force, for which I had a special qualification.
17029 You had charge of the city of Melbourne , Collingwood, and Richmond ?— All on this side of the Yarra.
17030 Irrespective of Brunswick , that now belongs to Mr. Winch?— Yes.
17031 You had no stations on the other side of the Yarra?— No.
17032 I had all this side?— Those were given to you.
17033 Then you were promoted to the rank of inspecting superintendent?— Yes.
17034 At what salary?— My pay was £425.
17035 That was what your predecessor got, Mr. Bookey?— I believe he did.
17036 Shortly after that you got an increase of your salary, did you not, of £75 a year?— Yes. That was on account of some particular representation. It was on the occasion of your having received another hundred a year, you and Mr. Winch
17037 And you retained that up to the present?— I did.
<span id="rc17038">[[#rc17038|17038]]</span> When were you made Assistant Commissioner?— On the 1st of October 1880 .
17039 Was that through an application of yours?— No.
17040 Was it an application of Captain Standish's?— I do not think so.....
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