Royal Commission report day 19 page 35

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The Royal Commission evidence for 13/5/1881

(full text transcription)

(see also introduction to day 19)

'Const Thomas Kirkham giving evidence'

6823 How long had Mr. Hare been on the ground from the first shot that was fired until you saw him sitting on the log?— Perhaps five or six minutes, or more.

6824 Did you see him at any time of the morning after that?— I did not see him from that particular time till I saw him to-day.

6825 Did he appear to be suffering extremely from the wound?— He did.

6826 To such an extent that he was then incapable of taking any active steps in the way of firing or otherwise?— That I could not say.

6827 I want you to express your opinion that you formed at the time you saw him sitting on the log?— He was apparently in great pain from what I saw.

6828 Had you previously known Mr. Hare?— Yes.

6829 Had you been with him in any search parties?— I was.

6830 Are you under the impression that the position you saw him in when he was complaining of being shot, that he would not have done that unless he was suffering extremely from the shot he received. In other words, was he acting the coward?— Not for a moment, no.

6831 Do you believe he was actually suffering from severe pain from the wound he received?— Yes.

6832 You did not see Mr. O'Connor from that time (the first volley) until on your way to the railway station?— Yes.

6833 How long after the first volley did you return to the railway station?— Perhaps three-quarters of an hour.

6834 Did you see Mr. O’Connor on your way to the railway station at that time?— Yes.

6835 Where was he?— In the so-called trench.

6836 Did you see him earlier in the morning going into that trench?— No.

6837 Did you see him when calling out to Mrs. Jones when she was leaving the hotel—had you seen him before he called on Mrs. Jones then?— No.

6838 But you had heard him. I ask whether you had seen Mr. O'Connor before he called out to Mrs. Jones, when he challenged her on leaving her hotel?— No, I did not,

6839 You heard him, you said, calling out to challenge Mrs. Jones when she was leaving the hotel?— No

6840 I have taken down the very words; did you hear him calling out to anyone?— I heard him challenge McHugh and a woman.

6841 Not Mrs. Jones?— I could not say.

6842 What time did the woman come out of the hotel with McHugh—was it daylight?— I think not.

6843 How do you know then it was McHugh and a woman?— Gascoigne —

6844 How did you know?— I did not know.

6845 It is from information you obtained?— That I heard him challenge?

6846 Yes?— I heard him.

6847 Did you know McHugh?— No.

6848 Did you see Mr. O'Connor?— I heard his voice.

6849 How long did you remain at the station on that occasion?— Half an hour or more.

6850 What kept you half an hour at the station—this was before daylight?— I was looking for ammunition.

6851 Had you previously met Senior-Constable Kelly at that time?— Yes.

6852 Had he told you that there was no ammunition?— That he had none—there was no Martini-Henry ammunition.

6853 Whom did you see on the platform after passing Kelly?— I think I saw one reporter.

6854 Did you see Mr. Sadleir there?— He had not arrived at that time.

6855 On your return from the railway station at that time you went to Mr. O'Connor?— Yes.

6856 Did you know at that time that Mr. Hare had left Glenrowan?— No, I did not know where he was.

6857 No one told you at the station he had gone to Benalla?— No.....

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