Royal Commission report day 20 page 5

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The Royal Commission evidence for 14/5/1881

(full text transcription)

(see also introduction to day 20)

Const Canny giving evidence

7498 Did he retain the McAuliffes and let the others go?— Yes.

7499 Did you see Sergeant Steele come on the ground?— I heard him; I did not see him. I heard him challenged by one of the constables; I do not know who.

7500 Was the position that you heard him coming to between you and where the place is that you were shown as the place that Kelly was captured?— Yes.

7501 Do you know what position Sergeant Steele took up?— No.

7502 Did you hear any firing from the tree to your right?— There was firing there.

7503 Then if Sergeant Steele stated that he took that position immediately on coming from Wangaratta, would you have any reason to doubt his accuracy?— No.

7504 By Mr. O'Connor— Can you state what time the special train arrived at Glenrowan?— I had a watch and I looked at it just then, it was twenty minutes to three.

7505 Do I understand you to mean when we came up to unship the horses?— Yes.

7506 Did you notice me on the platform at all?— No, I did not.

7507 Are you prepared to state that I was not on the platform?— No, certainly not; I was busy taking the horses out.

7508 You never heard me speak on the platform?— No, you might have.

7509 Mr. Hare, you stated, ran up in advance; who was the next man?— I believe it was Constable Gascoigne.

7510 You did not see me move up with Mr. Hare?— No.

7511 Where did you come up in the rush?— I was third man to Mr. Hare, going through the wicket gate.

7512 I mean leaving the platform. You say you were getting out the horses, where were you upon leaving the platform—were there several between you and Mr. Hare when he went up?— Yes, but some of them went towards the railway gate—some of the party.

7513 Would you show on the plan the gate you mean?— I mean the gate-house.

7514 On the railway line?— Yes, some of the men went on to that.

7515 I am speaking of leaving the railway platform. Now who can you swear left the platform with Mr. Hare?— Gascoigne, Phillips, and myself.

7516 You were the only ones?— Yes. There were lots, but they did not go through the wicket gate.

7517 Never mind the wicket gate at present; I mean before leaving the platform, Mr. Hare spoke and you heard him?— Yes.

7518 When we came out of the train, when the train pulled up at the platform, do you remember seeing Mr. Hare on the platform?— Yes.

7519 Did you see me on the platform?— I did not see you.

7520 You said I might have been there?— I am certain you were there.

7521 Then I ask you—I am still speaking of the platform—did you see Mr. Hare start up towards the house?— Yes.

7522 You heard him spear; to his men?— I followed him up.

7523 Did you hear him speak?— Yes, he said, “Come on, boys.”

7524 You say you did not hear me speak on the platform?— I do not remember on the platform.

7525 Who followed Mr. Hare off the platform?— I believe all the men started from the platform.

7526 I might have been with them?— You might have been with them.

7527 To your knowledge you do not know?— No, not starting from the platform.

7528 At what part of the ground did you pass the other man that led up next but one to Mr. Hare?— Some of the men went down the creek along the line.

7529 Now in reference to the first discharge, are you aware that Mr. Hare in his evidence stated he was wounded by the first shot that was fired; is that correct?— He was wounded very soon; if it was; not the first, it must have been the second anyhow. He was wounded very soon after.

7530 Did you hear Mr. Hare immediately state that he was wounded?— I heard him say he was wounded.....

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